Bonus Ball Question...Somethin to think about

[acropilot19]

Heres a question for you AO'ers that occurred to me while reading the DMW thread...

I play paintball for fun, I wanna have fun & I want the people I play with (wether I know em or not) to have fun to. I'm out there for a good time.

Call me intuitive but one thing I've noticed is that when people are mad they usually aint havin a good time.

For the record I wanna say I consider myself a Very even-tempered guy, calm under pressure, laid-back, etc...

Now, with all these advances in ROF & the understandable trend towards Soft, Baggy, Billowing clothing to "catch" or bounce paint, I've come apon a problem...

Ive encountered the situation a buncha times where a "target" pops out (usually one or both of us is moving), we exchange paint (usually lots), one or both gets lit, They(not me) get MAD.

Personal experience has shown that now more than ever the paint is just as likely to bounce as it is break. Plus, the natural tendency when you have a "Machine-Gun" in your hands is to use it.

So I ask: WHY, if
-The gun wants to shoot,
-the Paint wants to Bounce &
-The Clothes want to "Catch"
are people gettin so pissed off when the actually have 5 or 6 balls thump 'em in the chest?

If I KNEW that ONE ball I just threw at you WOULD break if I hit you square, I would'nt bother sending five more.

I dont enjoy gettin lit, but I wear that same kinda baggy outfit for the sole purpose of bouncin your well-placed shot(s), so I understand the "why" of it.

I just think its funny the same people that pay big bucks for higher ROF & baggy paint bouncin clothes get PO'ed when they get lit OUT OF NECESSITY.

Comments?

[03vert]

You're right, that is something to think about. You make a good point, but I don't see how we can change another person's attitude when they get hit. It hurts, pain is not always necessary so they get mad. Human nature is to not always think about "why" but the "what" and "how".

[MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata]

Good points, and the fact is as long as I am sure the overshooting was not malicious. I dont get pissed.

My last incidence of overshooting occured in a rec game where i was making a crazy run through (bored) and ended up catching a string of about 20 balls that he just followed me perfectly with.

Do I blame the kid...yes.. But the fact is he didn't mean to lay that many on me, it was just a panic response.

I did give this kid a hard time, everytime I see him. And plan on getting him back eventually, but nothing malicious just a nice bunker move.

[TheDoveDecends]

yes great point. I really dont like getting lit up with extra balls either.. in fact i think im safe to say no one does.. but it doesnt bother me unless i know there lighting me up on purpose when the extra shots can be avoided. I try not to shoot to many extra bonus balls.. but if im bunkering or someone pops out of no where and im in danger of getting hit.. i let a rip untill i know for certain their out. Its just the nature of the sport.. and really i see no reason to get upset about it. But there are a lot of people out there with crappy attitudes and it sucks.

[Carbon]

Acropilot: some good points regarding baggy clothes and bouncy paint. But, i think its as simple as people not realizing or not willing to accept the fact the more ya shoot(higher rof), the more your gonna get hit. Unfortunately folks eventually "settle" knowing theyre gonna get hit a whole buncha times. Even if its cleary visible your OTW to the dead box.

I myself and some people get pissed/bummed out when i get hit. Not because i got hit, but because i wasnt quick enough or i feel i played sloppily.

[Lohman446]

I got it one time (many times) where the kid hit me with at least a dozen balls. I do not wear baggy clothing (jeans and a t-shirt) and they all bounced. And I was ready to get upset over overshooting LOL

[camilion705]

How many breaks/bounces is considered overshooting? Isn't it three?

My friend at my field moved to bunker me, and when he came past the bunker, I had a four - five round burst layed right on 'em, but only three broke. Would that be considered overshooting?

[Brophog]

No one likes overshooting, that's why all tourney rules, and most rec rules define what clothing your allowed to wear.

While not gaining you the "edge" of bounces, does keep the likelihood of a break higher, thus your going to get shot less.

Problem is, we forgot how to enforce those rules.....

[68magOwner]

ok, first off, i have been overshot many times (one time in excess of over 20 balls from one guy with a tippy, but most of the time just 5-10 shots) i have ony gotten upset on one occasion, it was when, in a tourney, i was the last guy in a 3v1, well, i got shot out, the ref called me out, lowdly, but one kid from the other team snaps and hits me 5 more times, i let that one go, figuring he didnt hear the ref, but then he calls out my position (walking to dead box) to his team mates, and the one who shot me first starts screaming at them, as the other two both put 5-10 more balls a piece on me. (keep in mind, i had been called out, and was walking to the deadbox with marker in the air.) i got preety upset, i asked teh one guyer i was out..twice)(one who called my position out aft what his problem was, and to my dismay, his reply was "thats what u get for bunkering me" (referring to an earlier game) i thought that was absoultely rediculious, and unacceptable...and now i forgot my point oh yea, thats an example of why aperson would get mad anyway, the most balls i have stacked on a guy at one time was 4, i think im preety god about overshooting (even lil punks)

[JEDI]

A lot of people havent figured out that its part of the game. You eventually learn to get over it. I always laugh at the dude that thinks the two balls he took as he walked off was completely uncalled for, and he feels the need to swear or yell about it. Get over it. You play a game where people shoot at you.

Tourney ball is extremely fun, but you reach a point where to be good, it has to be business. Nothing personal. If I run past you, I'm putting 5 or 6 on you. I'd rather have you couring behind your bunker praying, then to have you cheat and shoot me AFTER I already shot you. Sorry.

[tony3]

Originally posted by MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata
Good points, and the fact is as long as I am sure the overshooting was not malicious. I dont get pissed.

My last incidence of overshooting occured in a rec game where i was making a crazy run through (bored) and ended up catching a string of about 20 balls that he just followed me perfectly with.

Do I blame the kid...yes.. But the fact is he didn't mean to lay that many on me, it was just a panic response.

I did give this kid a hard time, everytime I see him. And plan on getting him back eventually, but nothing malicious just a nice bunker move.

16 welts haha

[islandboi]

tourney ball ill unload recball 2 balls on a bunker move is good I have been forced to sit out of a game because I shot a guy twice though and that was whack I think only one broke any ways

[epterry]

The only time I was rather ticked off was when I had my back turned a guy flanked me and somehow I had 5-6 brakes and a couple more bounce. Nether of us was moving and this was in rec game with a bunch of first timers. I had been in the same situation earlier that day and had hit the person once in the bottom of the shoe, while being ready to shoot again if that one bounced/missed. If someone is running I must admit I will shoot until I see one break. Unfortunately, a couple more may be on the way.

[Jonesie]

As far as I'm concerned, 2 or 3 is expected. 20 I take exception to...

[azzkikr]

i think most people would agree with me when i say, that in a tourny i keep shoting till they are walking off the field, i don't care if they are naked or covered in pillows.

but as for rec ball, where there are no 2000 plus dollars entry fees, i pick my shots and do not shot once i see the first break on them, besides i ussually use my pump on rec ball

in any case, i still use discretion and good judgement.

later AZZKIKR