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  • Ityl
    Registered User
    • Nov 2000
    • 706

    #16
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    The more complicated you make something to more troublesome it will become. The current routing is the best for performance and reliability. (and it's easy)
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    • Tobe2be
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      • Feb 2003
      • 1324

      #17
      if it isnt broken why fix it. i only have one hose from my asa to my valve. also im a lil scared to have 850 psi inside my gun. i would rather have a nive SS hose from my asa to my valve. seems a lil safer.
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      • Thourne
        Pump Gun Aficionado
        • Feb 2002
        • 186

        #18
        Although the cocker front block uses a banjo type bolt, how often do cocker users remove their front blocks? The answer is not often. My cocker's front block has only been removed to upgrade parts and my friends' cockers have never had their blocks removed. The design works so well on the cocker because to clean the gun and do normal maintenance you never have to take it off. The banjo bolt didn't work in the Mag because everytime you took your rail and body apart (everytime you cleaned it good) you had to deal with this bolt and o-ring system.

        If you want to try and make it work then by all means try (I'll even act humble if you get it to work right), but I would bet that you will not get it to work right.
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        • Ov3rmind
          Speechless
          • Nov 2001
          • 2637

          #19
          Originally posted by Ityl
          Welcome to 1996

          The more complicated you make something to more troublesome it will become. The current routing is the best for performance and reliability. (and it's easy)
          It's actually no more complicated than an SS hose when you think about it. SS hose would offer no performance benfits over it, and reliability would probably be the same. (and it's easier: no buying the right length hose, no loctite or teflon)

          Tobe2be, you're already running 850 psi into your gun with a normal hose. Plus, if the "it's not broken, don't fix it" mentality was AGD's way of thinking Mags would have never recieved ULE parts or Lvl 10 (Not to mention this is much simpler than Lvl 10).

          Thourne, you are right that Cocker's front block screw isn't moved around often, I guess that does make my point invalid with that example. However, there are other guns that constantly have o-rings moving (probably more so in one day of play than this would require in it's entire time of usage), and they don't get chewed up. I think it would be entirely possible.
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          • Kevmaster
            Owners Group Div: Director
            • Oct 2001
            • 5475

            #20
            they already tried it (although not exactly your way). They changed it for more than just simplicity. Having the banjo bolt orings was a pain in the arse. The idea is good in though, but bad in application

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            • Ov3rmind
              Speechless
              • Nov 2001
              • 2637

              #21
              So, the only real problem people have with it is the banjo bolt o-rings? Hmmmm *puts industrius mind to work on solution*
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              • RRfireblade

                • Jun 2002
                • 5103

                #22
                Originally posted by Ov3rmind
                So, the only real problem people have with it is the banjo bolt o-rings? Hmmmm *puts industrius mind to work on solution*
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