AGD new marker rumor

[Jack & Coke]

I've seen WAS'd Angels with a special on/off switch where instead of on/off positions, it's on/off/cheat(debounce 1).

My friend has one, when the guy plays, the switch is in the cheater mode (debounce 1), when he gets checked, he secretely flicks the switch over to standard "on" position. The ref can work the trigger anyway he wants, the gun won't bounce.

With cheater mode on, he can slowly walk his fingers, and the gun just rips 20+bps! It's so obvious, it's actually kinda funny to watch. Kinda like those pedestrian conveyor walkways in the airport. You see poeple walking, but they're moving from point A to point B twice as fast.

I agree... "Or is it still a rule, but not enforced, due to tourny ball being sponsored by alot of these manufacturers?"

Manufacturers make cheater boards for their top teams, so they can showcase their guns. These are the same guys who have increadible influence over the league and refs. Talk about conflict of interest. The bigger paintball gets, the less integrity they have. You just have to deal with it if you want to play...

[Cyberious]

nicad's marker is incredible. I've been trying to get my hands on the prototype for months. If he or AGD come out with something like it I will gladly switch to it.

Actually I am becoming really happy with my TacOne though. I put the ULT in it and can almost walk it.

I think even with the current ULT if you could change the frame or the actual trigger itself a little so that the trigger travel length was shorter it would be much better.

I agree with the earlier poster though. I'm kind of becoming tired of having to look at the weather before I go to play. A marker like nicad's or the one AGD maybe planning that does not use a battery for the trigger that is light and short enough to walk it easily will be a hit. Heck if you want it to bounce back throw a spring or magnet behind it.

It would be interesting though to put a couple of button cells in the foregrip or somewhere to power an ACE eye though. That is the only electronics I really want anymore (but with the lvl10 I can live without it and not lose any sleep) you could easily seal them in the gun to protect them from moisture without increasing the size of the marker.

[LudavicoSoldier]

Are any leagues sponsored by companies who DONT promote TWiBish behavior? It seems that so many of the old school companies who cared about paintball have lost any say in the direction that we are going. Whats with the "old is bad, new is good" mentality these days? We dont have to throw out EVERYTHING that paintball was to make paintball what it is today, or what it will be in the future. It kills me that many of the companies pushing "new hat" paintball are headed by people who once were much loved by the whole paintball community.

The times they are a-changin...

[DK1]

It should be noted, on the "weather" and rain problems with electros.. IIRC, the Viking (or excal, can't remember which one they used) went through a test where they held it fully submerged in water for something like 45 seconds and it kept working... and it was firing the whole time. You'd need to ask Dan Voils (Auctionjunkie) about it, I think he's the one that did it. He'd be able to give you more specific details on what they did...

Just saying, not all electros bite it when wet.

DK1

[Woogie12]

Tom, if you do make that secret mag, and it has no bounce, you will have no problem selling it and making it popular. Market it and keep it at a reasonable price and they will be all over. Not everyone is into cheater boards and bounce. I shoot a speed and can't even find bounce on it no matter how I set it, I don't want it to bounce either. My friend has an e-bladed cocker that he doesn't want to bounce so he strengthened the magnet. Not everyone is into bounce, so don't give up hope.

[Jack & Coke]

Heh heh... looks like we can't use the name "Hybrid" anymore with regards to nicad and AGD's new concept guns:

http://www.forceofnature.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=834&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

Powerlyte Inc. is proud to announce that we have been granted a United States Trademark (Registration number 2,788,487, issue date December 2, 2003) for the name Hybrid. This is the fourth trademark issued to Powerlyte Inc.

The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office determined that the name Hybrid, relating to the paintball industry, met well-established criteria for issuance of a trademark.
Read more...

This trademark clearly designates the name Hybrid to be used only in accordance with Powerlyte Inc. The trademark covers use of Hybrid as the name of a product or company associated with the paintball industry. All parties interested in or currently using the name Hybrid should contact Powerlyte Inc. for licensing agreements.

[Jack & Coke]

Originally posted by AGD

My opinion is that an incredible mech trigger would still be blown off because it couldn't put out the paint like a cheater board.

If tournament rules would really stick to one shot per pull.... Oh Baby it would be an new day!

AGD

You mean like this?

http://www.dougherman.com/richie/DarkAlias.mov

Observe the pace his their finger walking cadence vs. how many times the gun actually shoots... hmmm...

[Joni]

J&C, thats because of the vid compression. That lowers the fps. It's the same phenomena as old b/w movies where wheels look like they make steps.

[Jack & Coke]

really... I thought about that, but I didn't think it was that bad...

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by Jack & Coke
really... I thought about that, but I didn't think it was that bad...

Need a good viewer that will show you how many frames per second are available. THEN we can judge finger speed ...

[Heebs]

"Are any leagues sponsored by companies who DONT promote TWiBish behavior? "

Play pump! The fastest we can shoot is as fast as you can pump it.

Heebs

[Butterfingers]

Originally posted by DK1
It should be noted, on the "weather" and rain problems with electros.. IIRC, the Viking (or excal, can't remember which one they used) went through a test where they held it fully submerged in water for something like 45 seconds and it kept working... and it was firing the whole time. You'd need to ask Dan Voils (Auctionjunkie) about it, I think he's the one that did it. He'd be able to give you more specific details on what they did...

Just saying, not all electros bite it when wet.

DK1

was it distilled water?

It wouldent matter if it was because distilled water doesnt have any ions to conduct electricity threfore short the board.

Now ou do that in mucky water you have problems electricity follows the path of least resistance.

[DK1]

Originally posted by Butterfingers


was it distilled water?

It wouldent matter if it was because distilled water doesnt have any ions to conduct electricity threfore short the board.

Now ou do that in mucky water you have problems electricity follows the path of least resistance.

that I do not know, you'd need to contact Dan about it.

DK1