AKA to discontinue Vikings and Excaliburs!

[wargod1099]

ok here is the fix for all this stop buying sp products screw them good products or not they suck
they slap bill gates in the face for something just like this smart parts just cant hanndel that most electors are better than theres and my problem is that now were losesing guns like the vik and excal do to these *** holes
hay i like the excal or vik better than shocks or imps sorry if you do not agree this is america i should have the right to buy what ever gun i choses sp is makeing it so you by theres the price is this now but next year it will go up and so on and so on thats how it works till all electro comp are gone AkA Most likely said they would rather stop selling there markers than to let sp ***s get a pices of there action patten or not its aka design there hard work not sp but they want some action anyways
i said i had a fix all good companys need to bases a small shop out of another country and paten it there that would smack sp in the face i hope sp goses out of biz i dout it but hope and i hope air america rips them a new *** hole
thats whos sueing sp the maxflo reg systems is built off air america technolgy Iam just mad at all this getting rid of all my sp gear and dont care if you do or dont
i just will not have part of there bull ...

[magmonkey]

"You guys look at it as a bad thing??"










to some of us it is a bad thing, the above guns are ours.
less then 50 of these markers complete and we have to stop, not because of anything we have done but because of big business creeping into our little sport. on top of that I have a pile of hours into a up coming emag project we were working on it just seems that every way we turn we get nailed...... I HATE SMARTPARTS SO MUCH IT MAKES THE BILE RISE FROM MY STOMACH!!!!! we had a real good start and the 2 markers we belived in enough to work on are now out of production

[-=Squid=-]

I was gawking at the absolute beauty of that last viking, then I noticed the freak?

I feel really bad for you guys on that, and I didnt even think about that.

[wargod1099]

Oh by the way

heres some more info on sp pattent

the first electro marker was made by the us army
made for tactical training and crowed control in the late 70"s befor sp the first shocker was built off the goverment desings at about 85% on the tee

the goverment should have not needed to patten this but u think sp will go after the army most likely not

[magmonkey]

here is a close up of the freak before it was anodized



we did them for the aka defense fund for people who had prev. bought freaks but did not want to show any support to SP

[Automaggin2]

Originally posted by wargod1099
ok here is the fix for all this stop buying sp products

Wow you like run ons

OBVIOUSLY you did not read my post or think about posting!



AKA opted NOT to fight SP, they could have, but obviously did not. I guess AKA rather give up on all of its loyal customers then to pay royalties or bargain with SP.


Companies that survived:
ICD
Dye
bob long/NPS



Companies that are dead:
AKA

[Automaggin2]

Originally posted by wargod1099
Oh by the way

heres some more info on sp pattent

the first electro marker was made by the us army
made for tactical training and crowed control in the late 70"s befor sp the first shocker was built off the goverment desings at about 85% on the tee

the goverment should have not needed to patten this but u think sp will go after the army most likely not

You are officially a MORON.

[wargod1099]

What ever
son
and sorry it was the Navey who made it and the arm used it

Originally posted by defiance
Well, technically, the shocker is an independent design (the only one I'm aware of - the impulse was a near-direct duplication of the operating system of a bushy, the new shocker internally duplicated the mayhem, but I've never seen the layout of a nerve - has anyone? - so I have no idea on it), and one Smart Parts does have inarguable exclusive rights to. They bought it from Pneuventures, the original creators of the shocker, who eventually went under. It was the first mass produced electronic paintball marker. However, there is documentation of, at the minimum, a prototype angel prior to the patent application date for the shocker, as well as several other non-produced desgins. Additionally, the shocker patent wording originally covered the exact design of the shocker, not all electronic paintball markers. And that is not even considering the navy patents on similar designs which predate smart parts by decades. Smart parts, however, filed a *change* of their patent last year, which CHANGED the patent so that it predated all others in paintball - what, 8 years after the fact? On it's surface, now, if everything in that patent were true, they would have truly been the first in the paintball industry. However, even if that were true, the Navy patent still predates them and could nullify their claim. And, of course, there's the matter of it not being true. But the patent office doesn't really do anything in the way of validation. They check the paperwork. That's it. They simply make absolutely sure that the paperwork is filled out to the last dot - and if it is, they grant the patent. They could have filed to have their patent take effect it 1800 and cover anything that projects a 68 calibur projectile, and the patent office would have granted it, since they OBVIOUSLY know how to fill out the paperwork. Patents are validated in court, nowhere else. Finally, even if the patent WERE completely valid, there's the issue of non-enforcement. Generally, the courts have ruled that if a patent is blatently and openly infringed for years without any attempt by the patent holder to stop it, then the owner would have forfeited their claim to said patent. This prevents issues like what we have now in paintball; One company with the apparent right to bend nearly any company in the business over a barrel, since they're all 'infringing' on it's patent, giving this company the power to direct the industry any way it wants. However, at this time, noone has been able to afford to really bring forth the evidence, so who knows how the courts would rule... I can only guess based on what evidene is available and what I feel is right or wrong.

[-=Squid=-]

This is starting to go downhill...

[Automaggin2]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
This is starting to go downhill...

Well Squid, its obvious why. People dont use their heads. People have to learn to think before they speak.

[Evil1]

The only thing I don't understand is why SP would do this. It just makes me wonder if they even gave this whole thing five minutes of thought. Law is like chinese to me so the only thing I don't understand is what exactly they patented, is it the actual shocker they patented or solenoid/spool valve design.

[Dr.hp.]

Another thing why USA sux

It's not chinese its America. And only in Americe stupid things like this patent stuff can work.

[FallNAngel]

Originally posted by spantol
So what? By selling their markers here, they agree to adhere to our IP laws. They're a valid target for an SP suit.

Yes and no. Although I did forget that MacDev is based in down under, they're selling their products here. Which I believe means that although SP can't force them to pay the tax to make their markers, they can prevent them from selling them here.

[jtoothman25]

And now you choose.. Continue playing SmartParts Paintball, or give up your favorite hobby. Our markers wont last forever, they'll break, and we'll have to buy a new marker... The new SmartParts Dye Marker. FUN! They are only being capitalistic, which is what made this country what it is. But, I do wish others were like TK. Maybe TK can fight back slightly by not letting them us HPA!

[AGD]

I have yet to fight back because I am only now donning my armor. When I forge my sword, it will not be from metal, it will cut with the power of light.

A...G...D