Funny hammerhead conversation

[Miscue]

Originally posted by Head knight of Ni
However it is inovative

Something is innovative when it has a novel way of doing things better. This is not the case with this barrel.

"Don't believe the hype." -Manike

[Miscue]

Originally posted by Head knight of Ni
Rifling however allows space for air to escape around the ball.

A paintball has an equator, touching the barrel on two sides. The gap that is created, I'd say is substantial enough to not bother mentioning what space the trifling creates.

[Head knight of Ni]

Well I meant that its at least a little different. Still the same old over hyped crap though. But what isnt any more. AGD stuff? badly under hyped. I still think the major selling point is its supposed reverse porting. Why is no one talking about that?

[Muzikman]

Re: Funny hammerhead conversation

Originally posted by viper_ssc
...125 for a barrel that can shoot an 11inch target 100 yards away is a bargain.

As Tom pointed out. That right there would make me question anything this guy says. Even if it does work like stated and is good as they say (which I'm sure it doesn't) how fast would a paintball have to travel to reach 100yards.

[Head knight of Ni]

One thing you have to remember though is that the rifled portion is very dependant on good paint to barrel match so rifling has too many flaws just realizing that I now give it a 6.5

[Head knight of Ni]

how fast would a paintball have to travel to reach 100yards.

The exact reason I dont like the flatline idea. Who needs more distance if the shot takes time to get there.

I do like the flat trajectory idea though.

[FallNAngel]

Re: Funny hammerhead conversation

Chris wrote:
do you even play paintball? a little bit more acurate is alot in an actual game, how many times have you shot and you were an inch from hitting someone, lots right? well the hammerhead would of hit that target, so a little difference does count.

Apparently accuracy doesn't matter now. Your aim is off by an inch? Oh well, the hammerhead would compensate and hit the target for you...

Chris wrote:
so stop talking so much garbage about hammerhead because its a multi-million dollar company FOR A REASON!!!!!!!

Drug dealers make a lot of money too... does that mean I should go out and get drugs? No... just because people buy the crap doesn't make it good.

[GT]

real paintball enthusiast knows that paintball is an expensive sport and 125 for a barrel that can shoot an 11inch target 100 yards away is a bargain.

UHHHH, WTF?

Originally posted by AGD
Hummm 11" group at 100 yards..... got to get me one of them....

AGD

Sorry Tom,
there is a huge difference bewteen an 11 inch grouping and an 11 inch target. I guess you're not an "enthusiast."


enthusiast; makes paintball sound like bird watching.

[azza]

,,,,and 125 for a barrel that can shoot an 11inch target 100 yards away is a bargain.

Do you find it odd that nowhere do they mention how much paint they went through to come to prove that statement?Did they use a hopper? A case? Or maybe was that 3 cases?
I bet anyone could do the same with virtually any other barrel out there with a half decent paint/barrel match. Just dont expect me to pay for the cases of paint. :P

(though i only know about it from what Ive read in this thread)

Cheers
Azza

[yeahthatsme]

they tested the barrels at 50, 100, and 150 yards...last i checked my balls would have to lob like no other to make 100 yards, with wind in my favor, much less 150, this guys nuts.

[lamby]

yea, the 11" at 100 yards thing is pretty funny. I think that was brain fart though... I am sure he meant to say feet. Just FYI if I dail in my 30.06, with the rounds I use, to zero at 100 yards. I will be 3.8" low at 200 yards. and that is a 165grain bullet with a muzzle velocity of 2800 FPS (a little faster and more areodynamic than a pb at 300fps :) ) I wonder with no wind what is the MAXIMUM distance a paintball can travel at 300fps. possible deep blue question... Any physics majors in here?

[rdb123]

lamby, this is from my post over at PBN a few months ago:

That is correct.

Two objects dropped at the same height drop at the exact same rate (9.8 meters per second). Also, after the ball leaves the barrel of the gun, there is no more force acting on it in the X direction.

Therefore, we can surmise this for a paintball shot directly parallel to the horizon from 1.5 meters up:

Using one of the kinematic equations for displacement, Delta(Y) = (acceleration)(time^2)/2 we have -1.5 meters = (-9.8 m/s)(time^2)/2.

-1.5/-9.8 = t^2/2 = .55 Seconds.

Now, we also know the initial velocity of the paintball leaving the barrel is 300fps which equals 91.44 meters per second.

Multiply the time (.55 Seconds) by the velocity (91.44 meters per second) and you end with 55.6 meters traveled by the ball. 55.6m = 165feet.

Why is this relevant? Well, if you think about it, any gun firing 1.5m above the ground at 300fps directly parallel will travel 165feet disregarding air resistance.

Now...

Mass will not make a difference in the simple air-resestance-free physics we are doing; however, in REAL physics with air resistance, mass will have an effect on the decrease in speed.

In addition, if two balls are fired at the same speed like in the example above, but one ball has a greater mass, the ball with the greater mass will travel further because its negative acceleration due to air resistance will be less.

I COULD redo the example equation I wrote above to account for air-resistance, but then that would involve Calculus and I'm sure most of you would NOT like to read through that.

EDIT:

Anyone else see the irony in this???

Just change the values in my initial equation to find what you're looking for. Ironically enough, I wrote that reply to argue why the hammerhead is all hype.

http://pbnation.com/showthread.php?s...1&pagenumber=1 (Read it, it's pretty funny)

[lamby]

rdb,

Thank you very interesting... Is there a math formulat that would determain maximum distance though? I know that the peak attack angle would have to be figured out, but that is what I have no idea how to figure out

[127.0.0.1]

Originally posted by rdb123

http://pbnation.com/showthread.php?s...1&pagenumber=1 (Read it, it's pretty funny)

LOL!!!!! One of the FUNNIEST Thread ever! Newtownian physics = NAZI! LMAO!!!!

[Miscue]

Originally posted by lamby
rdb,

Thank you very interesting... Is there a math formulat that would determain maximum distance though? I know that the peak attack angle would have to be figured out, but that is what I have no idea how to figure out

You can get a good approximation if you calculate for wind resistance. But this requires calculus.