Pump help! Which one?

[127.0.0.1]

I own a Phantom.. and I like it

[ogre55]

Phantom all the way.

The Illusion, while a great gun has lousy efficiency when running on a 12 gram, at least as compared to a Phantom.

[soccer4minimags]

Is the phantom autotrigger? You should check out the new ccm series 5 pump. Its got that sweet new 90 degree frame and it has an autotrigger upgrade

[Odder]

Talk to Brad again, don't know if you know it or not, he is a member of PHOG and a wiz on custom Phantom accessories. he should be able get you a Phantom at below MSRP.

Feel free to wonder over to PHOG and take a look around in there, you will find a wealth of infomation on not just Phantoms but every pump you can think of.

http://pub15.ezboard.com/bphantomphorum75007

[GT]

Originally posted by Odder
Talk to Brad again, don't know if you know it or not, he is a member of PHOG and a wiz on custom Phantom accessories. he should be able get you a Phantom at below MSRP.

Feel free to wonder over to PHOG and take a look around in there, you will find a wealth of infomation on not just Phantoms but every pump you can think of.


http://pub15.ezboard.com/bphantomphorum75007

Yes,
I got to hold that wild 90* framed phantom he built. that gun was just sick!

ClassicMagger: We will chat tonight or later today.


Does the phantom autotrigger?

[GT]

Originally posted by soccer4minimags
Is the phantom autotrigger? You should check out the new ccm series 5 pump. Its got that sweet new 90 degree frame and it has an autotrigger upgrade

750 bucks, for a pump, is abite more than wanted to pay....

[Odder]

Yes! the Phantom does have Auto Trigger, but unless you have a motorized feeder, you are just blending paint

[Spaceman613]

www.bunkerboyz.com sells the chipley guns (as well as phantoms), not sure what the price of the new J2 is but i have my J2 semi on order.

Phantom is autotrigger, and probably the best bang for the buck. I would highly recommend one. I do however shoot snipers. I have a custom stock class sniper and 4 direct feed snipers.

I also have a centrerfeed sterling, bad boyz toyz sterling, phantom VSC, and a few sheridans... for your requirements, the phantom seems to be the best buy, but shoot a couple first. You could always have Brad at PBmaxx or K&P customs do an undercocking mod for a good price.

[LudavicoSoldier]

Get a Phantom with a stock class dropout valve. I used to have a uni-body phantom and it was the titts! Check it out:

[magmonkey]

I have a unibody and i just picked this one up today for $40




fun stuff

[GT]

Originally posted by magmonkey
I have a unibody and i just picked this one up today for $40

fun stuff

Nice to see the DC guys on AO, welcome.

[soccer4minimags]

Originally posted by gtrsi


750 bucks, for a pump, is abite more than wanted to pay....

You must be looking at the new J2's
I meant the series five pump. Its $425, plus $50 for the autotrigger upgrade.

[50 cal]

I suggest the Phantom too. I have a Sterling that is pretty nice, I like to break it out every now and again.

[Meph]

Nice list, though sounds a little odd about RT trigger on a pump.

- relible
- parts widly availible
- interchangable barrels
- light
- stick feed and hopper feed
- autotrigger
- 12gram and Constant air (switch back and forth)
- Possible future "RT" like pump action
- smooth pump action with a smooth trigger
- fairly efficient

Reliability, they're all fine. You won't have 20 O-ring Matrix Style to worry about in any of these, most are all quite fine and don't require much maintanence at all.

The only thing with parts WIDLY available is the Sniper II. Just because it's the bastard younger brother of the autococker... so you can get all your favorite cocker bolt, valve, hammer, grip frame. All of that good jazz. Otherwise for the cheaper alternative Phants, Ill's and Ster's are all quite fine stock. They don't need performance upgrades unlike the Sniper II, so bone stock they'll shoot quite nicely. After broken in of course.

Phantom barrels are uncommon, but your best bet is indeed Illusion or Sniper. Cocker threads baby. They're everywhere.

Sterling and Phantom are your lightest options. Especially phantom.

Illusion wins best for SC to DF option, angel threaded vert feed stock option. Phantom needs to remove the entire breech, and Sniper or Sterling you gotta have it custom done. So break out the wallet for that!

Autotrigger...... don't even worry about it. People that shoot autotrigger are ignored, because you just can't shoot accurately with it. And those that DO are the ones who slow their ROF to keep stability, thus making them no faster than everybody else who just can pump - shoot - pump - shoot.

And all are efficient. Except Sniper II, again gotta upgrade and modify the stock setup to make it more efficient. The way 12grams are efficient is the exact opposite on how tanks are efficient. And Snip's are now made for tanks, not 12grams. Illusion and Sterling gets 25-30ish (more if you use a regulator with the setup). Phantom a little better stock, 35 or so shots from a 12gram.

Really they're all quite fine choices. Phantom's the lighest and probably most efficient (stock). Illusion is great for those that want an all around pump for SC or DF setups. Snipers can be upgraded all to hell. And Sterlings have their own little cult behind them.

[GT]

meph thanks for the great post. I still havnt decieded on what I want just yet..... sterling or phantom....