04 cockers?

[rkjunior303]

OK.. Before AO get's all over me for this - ha - I still love mags and have every intention of owning another...

I was interested in picking up a base cocker just to fool with. From what I hear, the 04's are pretty much the best bet to shoot out of the box, for the money. I'm not looking to drop 4-5-600 into one. What do you guys think? Or would I be better off picking up one 'brand new used' from a classifieds forum. I'm pretty much clueless with what's good and waht to stay away from. From what I gathered, the Orracles are pretty much some of the best ones to look at but again, i'm not looking to pay $600 for one. I just want something to toy around with and learn, since I've never used on in the 10+ years (since Jr High baby!) I've been playing paintball on-and-off.

[Banshee23]

I'd say get a used one. I just picked up a Freeflow Lotus for $430 shipped a few weeks ago. Definately better than a new stock cocker (2k4/Outkast/Orracle) & there's nothing to upgrade. But if you want new get a 2k3, you can find them for under $300 online now. The 2k4 is mostly just cosmetic upgrades.

[Dryden]

I've been looking at an Autococker for the same reason (something to fool around with and learn), and I don't see that the 2K3s and 2K4s are that far apart in price. Where have you found 2K3s under $300?

xtremez.com has the vert-feed 2K3 at $339.

paintball-discounters.com and xtremez both have the 2K4 at $359.

[Torbo]

2k3/4 is a good way to go. You could pick up a very nice used one though, but you may opt ofr anew one, being your first cocker

[rkjunior303]

the only difference i thought i saw.. a new 03 doesnt come with a hinge while the 04's do...

[11_Mile_TMaster]

My 03 came with a Hinge...

As far as I know ,the primary difference between the 03 and 04 is that the 04's LPR is adjustable, and the body is a slightly different style. Haven't seen one for myself to be sure, though.

[Potatoboy]

new milled body.
Nickle smaller HRP
nickle pneumatics
smaller adjustable LPR
new nickle beavertail
nickle hinge frame
nickle bottomline with SS braid hose
New ported stock barrel.

I think that's about it.

We have them at killer.

[yeahthatsme]

Originally posted by rkjunior303
the only difference i thought i saw.. a new 03 doesnt come with a hinge while the 04's do...

they both come with a hinge stock.

[tyrion2323]

PM'd you rkJunior

[rkjunior303]

Originally posted by tyrion2323
PM'd you rkJunior

haven't gotten anything yet

[tyrion2323]

Check again man

[rkjunior303]

got it, thanks. i replied to you.

As for say the 03/04 Cockers. How are the pneumatics on them? Obviously as stock they aren't GREAT but are they decent enough to shoot well? A -new- 03 cocker is is $290 shipped on ebay... Worth the cash? Or will I just want to upgrade stuff like the pneumatics down the line?

Like I said, I'm flying blind on these things

[tyrion2323]

Well, I'll tell you, I'm no expert on WGP cockers. I know that, for quite a long time now, the STO pneumatics have been regarded as the "cream of the crop" of WGP pneus (correct me if I'm wrong!)

Jacob

[Wc Keep]

pbgear.com has the 03 for 250

i just sold my 2k2 wit hige for 200.

[rkjunior303]

thanks for the info WC. I have a few weeks to decide.. Besides I have my Omen and I love shooting that.. This is just more of a "I dont need it but why not" type buy... ya know? I'm sure a stock 03/04 will do fine for what I want.. And like us all, I know eventually if I decide to keep it i'll want to upgrade the *F* out of it