Air America Tech Support

[Albinonewt]

Someone should call the shirt ninjas

[cphilip]

I also have had good experiences with Air America. All of them good. If they having a problem then this is the first I ever heard of it. Sounds a bit exagerated to me... Consider the sources when you hear things like this. I not saying something can not slip up but for the the most part AA has a good customer service rep and a good product.

[MantisMag]

Originally posted by Albinonewt
Someone should call the shirt ninjas

[cphilip]

That user name is not going to be allowed

The linked post has blatantly racist comments from the get go in it.

The posters attitude stinks of smug creative writing. All these things sort of go to the credibility of the writer.

Some of you might be impressed but this is not Engish class for creative writing here. We want facts here. This one I seriously got my BS meter going off about. I just gotta level with ya. I read it all and its just going nutz! I feel it!

I remind anyone out there that slandering a companies good name is a serious thing. I would think twice about using a issue that should be confirmable with AA to demonstrate your ability to exagerate and spread rumors. They better be true is all I gotta say. Because AA will indeed know who this is. If indeed ANY of its true at all. I gotta call BS on this one though. I just got a good feeling about that. This one stinks of 16 to 17 year old smug internet anonamous I got to tell a story because I am bored creativity to me. I could be wrong... but often I am not.

[RobAGD]

Suggestion :

Get rid of those hard reg seats for you LP regs.

Get a AGD Reg Valve Pin and a AGD Automag Reg seat and use those. You MAY have to tweak it a tad depending on your particular reg but thats all I use in my AA stuff. Tjose hard seats are way too hard. AGDE which is the Europen distrib for AA stuff ended up making thier own seats that were a tad softer.

With the soft setas you need to use the AGD pin not the AA pin.

-Robert

[Shykicker]

Originally posted by cphilip
That user name is not going to be allowed

Well, first off, if sounds like you might agree with the first interpretation of the original unbastardized form of the term, and the second is slang for a boot:
(Do not click if you are offended by mild vulgarity. You're warned

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=****kicker

[edit]Nevermind, the profanity filter is going to make you work for it. See if you can guess the four letter word in that dictionary deffinition.

Secondly, it is so-bastardized to prevent it from being offensive. In the six+ years I've been using it, it's not once been a problem. If you still dissagree, I'll change it. Would asteriking it out be an acceptible alternative?

Originally posted by cphilip
linked post has blatantly racist comments from the get go in it.

If you followed the link associated with my intro, which was MEANT to prevent this problem, you might realise that the words Nigard, Nigardly, etc. have NO RACIST CONNOTATIONS whatsoever. Notice the absence of esteemed sponsor of Sesame Street: The letter "E." Even such historical writers as Alexander Pope have used it, without, may I add, elliciting the wrath of uninformed alarmist wouldbe civil rights advocates. The term very much predates what we now call the "N word." Personally, I advocate civil rights to the letter, and I'm most offended at this kind of ignorant remark, especially in light of my disclaimer.

Originally posted by cphilip
The posters attitude stinks of smug creative writing. All these things sort of go to the credibility of the writer.

Forgive me if I skipped the chapter in American History where being a clever swine makes me a suspected liar. Oscar Wilde would be turning in his grave, if he believed in life after death. If you don't believe me, I have several of those EMails still in my Inbox. And before you question my motives, you must first examine them (or at least pretend to). What would drive me to lie about what great customer service I must have gotten from Air America? When you put two and two together, the only thing that would drive me to write such terrible things about them is for them to have conducted themselves so terribly. I'm sorry if I impressed you with my writing along the way. I'll try to be an idiot in the future.

Originally posted by cphilip
Some of you might be impressed but this is not Engish class for creative writing here. We want facts here. This one I seriously got my BS meter going off about. I just gotta level with ya. I read it all and its just going nutz! I feel it!

Speaking of creative writing, and let's introduce a new word: conjecture. I hope you have some pretty solid basis for pretending I'm a liar, because it looks like you're in the same boat as I am: in dissbelief of the horrid customer service Air America has shown me. Only I had physical evidence of the most menacing kind. I still pinched myself several times, because at the moment, it SEEMED like a customer service nightmare.

Though apparently it must have BEEN. According to you, I must have drempt it up and sent my tank to some imaginary company some imaginary two times, and imagined, infact, noises comming from my fill nipple. It's a good thing you cleared that up for me. Every time my paintball equipment malfunctions, I'll just tell myself to wake up.

It would be super neat if that actually worked.

Originally posted by cphilip
I remind anyone out there that slandering a companies good name is a serious thing.

Then should I remind you that slandering a member's good (abeit percievedly vulgar, apparently) name is equally serious? I'll be expecting a written appology when you find out how wrong you are.

Originally posted by cphilip
I would think twice about using a issue that should be confirmable with AA to demonstrate your ability to exagerate and spread rumors.

And I would think twice about posting such a bold accuisation on a whim. I seriously hope you don't expect any company with customer service this bad to fess up about their most absolute failures in a relatively simple task, which they've botched three times, on my count.

Originally posted by cphilip
They better be true is all I gotta say. Because AA will indeed know who this is. If indeed ANY of its true at all. I gotta call BS on this one though. I just got a good feeling about that. This one stinks of 16 to 17 year old smug internet anonamous I got to tell a story because I am bored creativity to me. I could be wrong... but often I am not.

The name is Luke Holterman. Tell them I said "hi." Would you like a photo of my tank, while I'm at it, and all the crappy handouts they've sent me to try and make up for their uselessness? I could give you the name and number of the Airsmith who actually fixed it, so he can corroborate what a simple job it was? How many people are you willing to bother before you believe the inconceivable: that some companies might actually have crappy customer service, and that AA might simply be one of them.

Now, to be fair, I didn't go out of my way and tell everybody that they're liars because they've had better experiences than I. So why do you, now, go out of your way to besmirch me for, God forbid, being a consumer advocate, and letting people know what happened to me when I ordered Air America?

I'll be expecting your appology as soon as you realise that being pursuasive does not make someone a liar. 200 words or less, please.

If you care to EMail it, send it to the same address where Air America has sent so many appologies: [email protected]

For the records, and assuming you actually CALL Air America, the original Email on my account was [email protected]. Sorry if that offended you, but it's an important detail.

How's that for anonymous?

But yes, you're right. In future posts, I'll try to dumb myself down to my audience so that only people with high standards don't believe me. Let me practice:

OMG!! AIR AMERIKA SUXX0RZ!!!11!! 1 TMIE THEY NEVAR FIXXXED MY TANK AND I WAS LIEK "DOOD!"

What do you think? Too much proof-reading?

[Tron]

lol nice Luke. pwned.

[Shykicker]

lol thanks, but I wasn't trying to own anyone. This whole message was in my defense. I'm just dissapointed that this came from a moderator.

[Tron]

Most of the mods are great but they get a little to into it sometimes. Sucks but you have to be neutral a lot of times if you're modding a forum.

[Shykicker]

Probably, but there's nothing neutral about libellious suggestions that I'm trying to slander Air America with amusing lies. I'm sure other mods wouldn't have taken this route. Mods are generally a pretty respectable lot.

BTW I'm entirely willing to cooperate with the mods on my user name, as soon as I hear back on my options. I'm not sure that alluding to a four letter word is a valid offense when a mod, ironically, accuses me of "BS," but I can pick my fights on that one.

[slushee]

unfortunatly cphilip .. I have to agree with the little guy on this one .. I have spent many years claiming that AA was a great company .. but quite honestly AA seems to have dropped the ball.

I can assure you that AGD would test/re-test to make sure the product to be fixed was right before being sent back to the customer ..

When my tank still creeped after reciving it back from the factory supposidlly "tested" and in "working" order .. obviously my confidence was shaken in the company. After spending more on those 6 little reg seats then what I pay for car insurance in a year (yes, a little bit exaggerated I know, but 60$ to get them to canada is a bit much imo) and to pull the reg apart only to find a dirty reg seat .. a supposidly NEW reg seat covered in oil and dirt .. you see where i'm going with this i'm sure.

Unfortunatly for AA, all it takes is this one time to "accidentally" either put my faulty reg seat back into my tank or not to replace it at all and send it back to me "tested" and "working" .. but still obviously broken.

[cphilip]

I will give AA a call monday... And I got a good idea about this kind of thing when I see it. I go mostly on instinct about credibility. Thats sort of where I am on this right now. Yours was suspect from the get go. A new member coming in just to spread a negative story is nothing new. And often there is an motive for that.

I told you that name is not allowed. I decided just to change it. So now you have new one here.

I dont know what you find liabialous or whatever it is you want to call it about me calling you on the exact facts of that story. Your intitial accusation that its because they hire people of other nationalities is where you lost it with me. I find that mind set offensive and ignorant. So fromt that point on your entire story is tainted by that. So if I truely believe it then its hardly slander. And I made no effort to seek you out. You came here. With your story. And you did not have to repeat the names and contacts for me. Because they were already available to me in your other post! So no need to appear forthcoming when it was already information you posted.

I will look into it.

[cphilip]

Originally posted by Shykicker
Probably, but there's nothing neutral about libellious suggestions that I'm trying to slander Air America with amusing lies. I'm sure other mods wouldn't have taken this route. Mods are generally a pretty respectable lot.

BTW I'm entirely willing to cooperate with the mods on my user name, as soon as I hear back on my options. I'm not sure that alluding to a four letter word is a valid offense when a mod, ironically, accuses me of "BS," but I can pick my fights on that one.

Other mods? Whats that? Your sure of what? I have no idea what you are implying at all. I doubt you know.

And you assume too much. I was not refering to Niggardly in my reference to your obvious racism. I was reffering to your constant use of references to "illegal immigrant" and "deported" and such. Your glee at reaching finaly what you call "a Native. You go back to that theme time and time again. You refer to achievement of Anglo Saxxon language as a superiority and evidence of somehow intelligence. THAT is blatantly racist and if you dont get it then you are one. Simple as that. Now, since you brought it up, one could argue that that niggardly is not offensive. But to some it indeed is. It in fact is a derisive term no matter who its aimed at and was indeed bastardized to apply to Blacks. So no matter what you and I might want to use, such as a dictionary, it indeed was applied to a racist slur and became commonly recognised as such. And there is nothing we can do about that. Blame your forefathers if you want. But it was not my basis of calling you a racist. It was your other constant implying that all mistakes must be the result of hiring illegal immigrants i.e. Hispanics. Thats what set me off. And its a consistent theme in your diatribe. And its offensive.

No reason to assume there is no lies in there? Sure there is! I have to suspect why it is you wanted to come here with that whole thing. And you offended and disrespected other nationalities right away in your story. I gonna have to say you have done plenty to make me suspicious. I don't have to prove anything to you kid. I know where your coming from with just the little I have seen of you. But your on a different turf now. One where you better be 100% correct or someone is going to call you on it.

So you got a problem with Bull Snot?

[cphilip]

Originally posted by slushee
unfortunatly cphilip .. I have to agree with the little guy on this one .. I have spent many years claiming that AA was a great company .. but quite honestly AA seems to have dropped the ball.

Slushee, I said early on that I did not doubt they could mess up. But I have said they will make things right. From mine and many others experience. The thing here was the whole story had some REAL exagerations I suspected and some logic was used that I felt was totaly inapropriate. Namely the racist ones. Thats what I am having an issue with. That makes me doubt a lot of the story. Not every detail but a good bit of what I think are the embellishments to make the story more incredible. Thats where I am having trouble swallowing it.

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

hmmm pbforum link isnt workin for me...