Worr bought by K2

[atm743]

well read my post.i said that i hope that smart parts dosent run agd out of buissness but i dout that that will ever happen

[Butterfingers]

Nothing alot of Red loctite or A bit Mr. Lincoln wont fix...

I see cockers being very assembly line ish and non adjustable...

Hmmm, Not a good move on K2's part - but awsome for Bud. I just think Cockers are WAY to complicated (and easy to screw up) to be Walmart guns. I'm not saying anything bad about them - I own 2 - but don't see the cocker as a platform that will do well in the mass market enviroment.

It'll be interesting to see how this all works out.

Anyhow, best regards to Bud Orr - I'm sure it was a great deal for him.

-Calvin

[WARPED1]

K2 owns BE too(which owns JT and VL too.) Hope Worr doesn't turn crappy!

[Banshee23]

i hope that agd is going to be bought off by anyone. i have a feeling because they are stopping the production of flatlines e-mags x-mags. i have a bad feeling that something eals will go to. you see all of the smart parts desighs for all of the impys ??

ohhh i hate smartparts. they jest love takeing other peoples ideas.

Ummmm that's a shocker, not an Imp.

[InexactMelissa]

In having a conversation with my boyfriend, he brought up an interesting point: K2 - registered on the NYSE, would certainly have more than enought money and power to deal with any nastiness that may be flung at them by a certain patent manipulating company...hmm, maybe this is a bit of strategy? If nothing else, I'm sure Bud got to hang up his hat with a nifty pocketfull of change without selling out to a Gardener.

[Ov3rmind]

In having a conversation with my boyfriend, he brought up an interesting point: K2 - registered on the NYSE, would certainly have more than enought money and power to deal with any nastiness that may be flung at them by a certain patent manipulating company...hmm, maybe this is a bit of strategy? If nothing else, I'm sure Bud got to hang up his hat with a nifty pocketfull of change without selling out to a Gardener.

Hm, didn't even think about that. Maybe this could be the super power that puts SP in it's place.

[cledford]

In having a conversation with my boyfriend, he brought up an interesting point: K2 - registered on the NYSE, would certainly have more than enought money and power to deal with any nastiness that may be flung at them by a certain patent manipulating company...hmm, maybe this is a bit of strategy? If nothing else, I'm sure Bud got to hang up his hat with a nifty pocketfull of change without selling out to a Gardener.

Well, with all deference to Bud and his contributions to the sport - I thought he and Planet Eclipse had already sold out to SP?

I know for certain that Planet did - and could have sworn that I heard that WORR did as well.

-Calvin

[AcemanPB]

Actually, the more I think about it the sweeter the deal is for Bud. Worr was lossing alot of money to knock off cockers lately. So they just kind of dumped their problems onto K2. And since Worr now has the stigma of being a Wally World special, I think we will see a huge increase in sales from the knock off cockers.

[GT]

Worr was lossing alot of money to knock off cockers lately.

you are going to need some data to back that up. I seriously doubt Bud was sweating other cocker "brands"

[spantol]

How, exactly, did Worr all of a sudden gain the stigma of being a Wally World special?

BE had an established presence in WalMart long before the K2 buyout. That presence would have grown whether or not K2 had entered the picture. Brass Eagle did not buy WGP; K2 did. There's no reason to assume that WGP products will start showing up in WalMart, or that quality will decline.

K2 will position the two brands differently. To do otherwise would be foolish.

And since Worr now has the stigma of being a Wally World special, I think we will see a huge increase in sales from the knock off cockers.

[AcemanPB]

How, exactly, did Worr all of a sudden gain the stigma of being a Wally World special?

BE had an established presence in WalMart long before the K2 buyout. That presence would have grown whether or not K2 had entered the picture. There's no reason to assume that WGP products will start showing up in WalMart, or that quality will decline.

K2 will position the two brands differently. To do otherwise would be foolish.

I never said that WGP would end up in wal-mart, however to many people it give it that "stigma" anyways. Just read some of the post made by other people here and on other message boards. Even though these assumptions aren't very logical or accurate, it's still less cockers WGP will sell. I'm just saying that WGP will probably take a hit in sales, considering the fact that they probably just lost alot of their customer loyalty.


And no, I'm not sure if WGP was sweating the competition from knock-off cockers. I do know however that I see them all over the place. At my field there are way more knock-off cockers than WGP cockers now. I think we can all agree that the introduction of these knock-off's certinally didn't help WGP's sells.

[InexactMelissa]

How, exactly, did Worr all of a sudden gain the stigma of being a Wally World special?

BE had an established presence in WalMart long before the K2 buyout. That presence would have grown whether or not K2 had entered the picture. Brass Eagle did not buy WGP; K2 did. There's no reason to assume that WGP products will start showing up in WalMart, or that quality will decline.

K2 will position the two brands differently. To do otherwise would be foolish.

While I agree that it would be foolish to not position the brands differently (after all, the press release implies that the WGP purchase was intended to target the higher end of the market), BE has apparently been kicking sales butt recently. From the K2 1st quarter report: "In a seasonally slow quarter, Brass Eagle generated a significant sales increase of 59% to total sales of $21.3 million compared to the first quarter of 2003 due to strong demand in all major distribution channels" and I read this to mean that WalMart is running out of stock and increasing their orders by 59%, even in winter.

If you're interested, here's the complete report: NYSE info and K2 1Q2004 report

[spantol]

All that WGP needs to do to quell this brewing "stigma" is to issue a press release reiterating their commitment to their customers and to the quality of their products, and wait awhile. The announcement's been out for only a few hours--the average paintballer's attention span isn't much longer. It'll pass.

I never said that WGP would end up in wal-mart, however to many people it give it that "stigma" anyways. Just read some of the post made by other people here and on other message boards. Even though these assumptions aren't very logical or accurate, it's still less cockers WGP will sell. I'm just saying that WGP will probably take a hit in sales, considering the fact that they probably just lost alot of their customer loyalty.

[JEDI]

[QUOTE=Dubstar112]Im starting to distrust everyone in the paintball industry.

QUOTE]
This is really troubling... because its exactly where I'm at.


Quote - "Maybe K2 has already approached AGD about selling. Maybe AGD was expecting K2 to buy AGD and was surprised when K2 bought WGP instead."

Haha, I read this and went, "Boo Yah!!!"

[mrhooie]

I posted this on PBall Canada and thought I'd add it here too

-Well, as long as I remember, K2 has made quality products. I've used their skis, snowboards and roller blades.

This is not a bad thing, players. But a step forward

Everyone wanted to know what the next big leap for Paintball is? Guess what - it's happening now

As far as Brass Eagle goes. I don't think they degraded the JT line, they did have a bad run of 12 revies though