Worr bought by K2

[DiRTyBuNNy]

Thunder Cats Shocker?


WTF does this have to do with the WGP?

Rat Shocker, actually...pretty nasty....isn't it?

[Evil1]

As bad as this new aquisition kind of is, I am kind of excited to see what wal mart has planned for the autococker. My guess is that they will be the same but with real low grade materials used for production.

[FooTemps]

It's funny how everyone makes the assumption that because BE makes crappy stuff... K2 must have low quality stuff too. I've used their skis and they're absolutely great. Quality. BE has been getting better since K2 bought them. What will that mean for WGP? who knows... but I could very well be better for the paintball community.

[Jack & Coke]

...I wonder if AGD is next on the K2 acquisition list?

Doubt it.

K2 got WGP because the "autococker" = $$$

The only thing AGD has in common with WGP is that they both make a good quality gun that shoots paintballs. That's not enough in the eyes of a big dawg like K2. They want sales!

The differences between AGD and WGP (which is why I doubt K2 will acquire AGD) are:

Every PB store sells autocockers. Not every pb store sells automags.

At almost every field, cockers are ubiquitous, mags are rare.

In terms of yearly product sales (potential units sales), autococker appears strong and plentiful. Whereas automag appears weak and questionable.

Sure the mag is a good quality gun, but that's not enough... you need to have good name recognition (marketing and demand) and high volume of sales in order for a big company to want to aquire you.

[tjmpaintball06]

automags are weak... that hurts. my emag will own a autococker any day.

[Python14]

Holy cow. This comes as a real shock. I mean, WGP...Walmart? Walmart Games Products?

I'm scared to see what will happen. All K2 needs now is loader manufacturer and they've got a whole market.

[thecavemankevin]

Doubt it.

K2 got WGP because the "autococker" = $$$

The only thing AGD has in common with WGP is that they both make a good quality gun that shoots paintballs. That's not enough in the eyes of a big dawg like K2. They want sales!

The differences between AGD and WGP (which is why I doubt K2 will acquire AGD) are:

Every PB store sells autocockers. Not every pb store sells automags.

At almost every field, cockers are ubiquitous, mags are rare.

In terms of yearly product sales (potential units sales), autococker appears strong and plentiful. Whereas automag appears weak and questionable.

Sure the mag is a good quality gun, but that's not enough... you need to have good name recognition (marketing and demand) and high volume of sales in order for a big company to want to aquire you.

well not only that but AGD is TK, AGD without TK isn't worth much. WGP on the other hand can easily be taken over by the current paintball personel at BE and made to still work without Bud.

i would be blown away if AGD sold out to anyone, especially BE. I just don't see them, or really anyone for that matter haveing the technical expertise to be able to handle AGD.

Really the only other company (paintball related) that i could think of that could handle AGD would be maybe Dye.

[thecavemankevin]

Holy cow. This comes as a real shock. I mean, WGP...Walmart? Walmart Games Products?

I'm scared to see what will happen. All K2 needs now is loader manufacturer and they've got a whole market.

ummm....K2 ownes Brass Eagle, which ownes both JT and Viewloader. Viewloader=most of the market for loaders and revvies (you know...the eggo...??).

[ogre55]

Well, with all deference to Bud and his contributions to the sport - I thought he and Planet Eclipse had already sold out to SP?

I know for certain that Planet did - and could have sworn that I heard that WORR did as well.

-Calvin

WGP had no reason to deal with SP. The Worr-Blade, is just an E-Blade with some minor cosmetic differences. While I do not know the details of the deal between Eclipse and WGP as far as I know it had nothing whatsoever to do with one company buying the other. As far as I know, WGP first "endorsed" the e-blade as the e-cocker upgrade of choice and brought out the e-orracle. Then, the next season, they introduced the worr-blade and a few more e-cockers, but all using the basic e-blade.

However, WGP by itself, had no reason to fear SP as they never produced an e-gun, as far as I know.

Ogre

[spantol]

Okay, one more time, from the top.

K2 owns Brass Eagle, which has a distribution relationship with WalMart.

K2 just bought WGP, and has indicated that WGP and Brass Eagle will operate independently, with WGP positioned as a high-end alternative to the BE products. Indeed, the press release didn't even mention BE as anything other than a footnote.

What it did say was that JT and WGP will benefit from common distribution channels. It's quite clear that they're speaking of the higher-end JT stuff--the high-end clothing, the Quadra line of markers, the non-Alpha masks, etc.; in short, the stuff you won't find at WalMart.

How does one read that, and infer that there will be any sort of relationship between WalMart and WGP, or that the quality of WGP goods will automatically decline?

As bad as this new aquisition kind of is, I am kind of excited to see what wal mart has planned for the autococker. My guess is that they will be the same but with real low grade materials used for production.

Holy cow. This comes as a real shock. I mean, WGP...Walmart? Walmart Games Products?

I'm scared to see what will happen. All K2 needs now is loader manufacturer and they've got a whole market.

[punkncat]

This will make me reconsider the future purchase of any cockers......

[cledford]

WGP had no reason to deal with SP. The Worr-Blade, is just an E-Blade with some minor cosmetic differences. While I do not know the details of the deal between Eclipse and WGP as far as I know it had nothing whatsoever to do with one company buying the other. As far as I know, WGP first "endorsed" the e-blade as the e-cocker upgrade of choice and brought out the e-orracle. Then, the next season, they introduced the worr-blade and a few more e-cockers, but all using the basic e-blade.

However, WGP by itself, had no reason to fear SP as they never produced an e-gun, as far as I know.

Ogre

Check this out:

http://www.planeteclipse.com/site/eNews.asp?newsID=45

In one of the Planet threads I saw someone post that WGP signed the same agreement. I'll admit it's hearsay, but seems possible.

-Calvin

[Deep Sixx]

Okay, one more time, from the top.

K2 owns Brass Eagle, which has a distribution relationship with WalMart.

K2 just bought WGP, and has indicated that WGP and Brass Eagle will operate independently, with WGP positioned as a high-end alternative to the BE products. Indeed, the press release didn't even mention BE as anything other than a footnote.

What it did say was that JT and WGP will benefit from common distribution channels. It's quite clear that they're speaking of the higher-end JT stuff--the high-end clothing, the Quadra line of markers, the non-Alpha masks, etc.; in short, the stuff you won't find at WalMart.

How does one read that, and infer that there will be any sort of relationship between WalMart and WGP, or that the quality of WGP goods will automatically decline?

FINALLY! Someone who actually reads things before they comment.

To the rest of you... BE had nothing to do with any of this. BE didn't buy anyone or anything. K2 did. Simple as that. Quit whining about BE, you're only showing your ignorance.

It's like calling Aston Martin's garbage just because Mazda makes some low-end crap cars.

sixx

[PissedGodzilla]

My opinion is that paintball as a whole might be the better for it. Does everybody else think that Bud Orr is leaving the company, because I sure don't.
I don't think it will change the guns at all, but have them distributed to a wider variety of places. Just my 2 cents

[ogre55]

Check this out:

http://www.planeteclipse.com/site/eNews.asp?newsID=45

In one of the Planet threads I saw someone post that WGP signed the same agreement. I'll admit it's hearsay, but seems possible.

-Calvin