To drop or not to drop?

[RoadDawg]

My problem is that people are getting up on me, when I'm saying that personal preference is just that. It's a personal choice. If you want to shoot that way, and have HIGH SUCCESS that way, then your fine. I use a small drop currently and a small tank. I like how tight I can hold the setup and not have my tank in the way. I've tried rail drops. Not at all my thing. To say that a certain shooting style is wrong, is just that, wrong. If people are comfy and can shoot quick then that is their thing. The title of the thread is "Personal Preference is a crock". It's not. To each their own. When I'm not on moveable bunkers I prefer smaller barrels. That way I don't have to take as long to get my barrel out and back. It's my choice. It's what I like using. Am I wrong in using them, NO. It's what I want to use. For others to say that my setup is all wrong it's basically comes to this. You may not like it, but I DO. It's my personal choice. I still don't think the 692 bore size for open bolts only, and close bolts should have kits talk but that's just me I guess.

[teufelhunden]

There's a reason your wrist is straight on your arm--- that's its natural position. You take it out of that when you use a drop. Therefore, you personally prefer to hurt performance? It's like typing at your keyboard. If you have the stands in the back up, look how your wrists are. They're up. Type for a while and check out how your wrists feel. The tendons and ligaments will be a bit sore. Same thing with paintball.

The title of that means that personal preference, when it comes to performance, is non-existant. You can always prefer to do something. But that doesn't mean it's best. In competition, it's ALWAYS worth it to sacrafice what you may consider 'comfort' [because it feels awkward doing it the other way since your used to the first way] for performance. Always.

[Cryer]

There's a reason your wrist is straight on your arm--- that's its natural position. You take it out of that when you use a drop. Therefore, you personally prefer to hurt performance? It's like typing at your keyboard. If you have the stands in the back up, look how your wrists are. They're up. Type for a while and check out how your wrists feel. The tendons and ligaments will be a bit sore. Same thing with paintball.

The title of that means that personal preference, when it comes to performance, is non-existant. You can always prefer to do something. But that doesn't mean it's best. In competition, it's ALWAYS worth it to sacrafice what you may consider 'comfort' [because it feels awkward doing it the other way since your used to the first way] for performance. Always.

Hes saying basically, that he has become proficient at his shooting style. He uses a drop, is more comfortable with it, and appearantly performs better with it.

He said he's tried rail mounts. Doesnt like 'em. So? Thats his thing, not yours.

So let him use a drop if he wants to.

[Cryer]

Perhaps another thing to note:

Not everyone shoulders their marker like a rifle. I've seen people (using a large drop, mind you) cradle the back of the tank at the bottom of their bicep and be amazingly accurate with it. In the past, with one of my setups, I actually rested the tank on the outer side of my shoulder. I've seen others use this technique, too...

People all dont hold their markers straight vertical. Many people "cross it over". (press the tank against one shoulder, and angle the gun to where the hopper is on the other side of their body).

Not everyone grips their 45 frame like they would grip a pistol. I for one, rarely wrap my thumb around the gripframe. That hand is for pulling the trigger, not holding the gun. Thats why foregrips are so popular. I've seen many people shoot in a similar manner.

My preference is towards rails or unimounts. As is yours appearently (Whether that is dictated by your personal experience or because the laws of physics prohibit otherwise, I havent a clue, but thats your perogative, not mine).

Others prefer different shooting styles. They hold their gun differently. They use a different size tank, or they have a shorter barrel.

When it all is said and done with, who had more fun? You, preoccupied with the logical aspect of everyone else's setup? Or the ones who have come to grips with the fact that everyone makes an equally appealing target?

That is, after all, what this whole game is about, right? If not, I think I may be in the wrong place, and you can disregard everything I've said here.

[scrumpy]

I've used almost every type of air mounting setup, short drop, long drop, med. drop, no drop, vertical. I found that when I used no drop my shooting platform was not as stable. Maybe there's something weird about how I shoot I don't know, but I am open to trying different things and I've tried different styles of paintball since I began playing and I definatly perform better with a medium-short drop. It's easier to hold my marker when it's not backheavy. I've never been a aim-by-volume player either, I'm always short on money, so I've learned that if I want to be able to play every weekend it has to be 1 shot 1 elemination. Look at it this way if you didn't like my car analogy: I used to be into archery and every guy down at the leauge had a different style of shooting. Sure the basics were the same, but their stabalizers etc were different. Some were extremely good and of those they varied in shot release method(either a finger release or a mech. release) what it came down to was preference, what they performed their best with. I don't think that you are completely wrong Helldog, but I don't think that you can come off saying that preference is bull**** and not smell of bull**** yourself.

Edit: Cryer has hit it right on the button.

[evan123]

Cryer, i love you....

What you said is so true and sumed it up right there. Good point bro

[danheneise]

Lol. I'm the author of that thread. Glad to see it made it here, maybe some of the people who actually get out and play, away from their PCs can shed some light to you guys.

Every point in that thread is from experience. Not snipering in the woods experience, 3 case/day tourney experience. If you want more, read the thread. You can skip pages 7-10 for the most part, it's off topic flames from idiots.

As for the original question: Don't get a drop. Unless you wanna screw up your rof, accuracy, and wrist. And if you like setups that are taller than they are long.

[nuclear zombie]

Lol, front's needing long drops? Fronts need the most stable shooting platform they can get... they don't have the time to aim by volume. Drop does the opposite of that.

But you guys wouldn't know, you've never done anything different.

actually having a drop forward is the "most stable shooting platform" for me , and yes I have had a marker for a considerable amount of time without a drop , yes I have tried getting used to it but in the end I went back to my shocktech long drop . You know why ? IT's MY personal preference! and one more thing When not using a drop my wrist remains at the same crooked angle so don't tell me you are doing it for ergonomics ,otherwise you should be telling me to use a Z-grip.

But you wouldn't know anything different, the fad won't let you .

[cockermongol]

But you wouldn't know anything different, the fad won't let you .

lmao

[Enemy]

omg this is too funny..ive worked at a paintball feild for the last 2 years before that i played for 3 years.. ive used no drop setups and still do in my opinion some things need to be matched to the marker and your style a large drop on a tippman feels odd to me but a small drop or no drop feels just right.. no drop on some of the shorter markers feels very odd to me and hard to shoot.. man i picked up a cocker no drop the trigger pull was the smallest i had even seen on a coker but i was still in short stroke city pick up a cocker with a huge drop and tank and twice the trigger pull and i can go all day without short stroking..my current setup has one of the biggest drops i have ever seen and it gets bigger i also have an 88 ci tank so that offsets the length of the drop.. i dont really cramp my wrist i just roll my finger on the trigger and i can out run my richochet..explain that!!! i will tell you the setup i use when i get my x mag but it looks like i will go with the same drop and an 88ci tank why cuz i like it.. oh and you will be seeing a vid of me atleast attempting to destroy the bet that no one can do a constant 15 bps..oh and one more thing i type with the largest kicks on the back of the keyboard i used to type for most of the day and my wrist never hurts not once. explain that as well.. you hype consumed dip stick!!!

[Enemy]

Uni-mounts seem to be nothing more than a modern rendition of the duck bill ASA. They make the entire package overly long.

Unlike a rifle, a paintgun has no recoil to speak of, has no sights to align, and therefore, has no need of 3 points of contact with the shooter.

It seems to me that the anti-drop sentiment is just another paintball fad, like splash anodizing.

that quote is probably the best thing ive heard yet!!!

[Cryer]

that quote is probably the best thing ive heard yet!!!

I dont agree.

He's on the extreme opposite end of the spectrum from teufelhunden, yet still discrediting all that disagree with him.

There's no way anyone can prove one way or another, through ergonomics, or any other logic, what the best shooting platform is.

This whole argument seems as pointless as squabbling over which side of your toast you like to butter.

(You guys remember this book?:))


I like rails, and will continue to recommend to other players that they at least try using one. If they dont like using rails, no big deal.
You like drops, so continue to recommend to other players that they use them. If they dont like using drops, no big deal.

Neither "faction" should have an issue with the way other people hold their guns.

[RoadDawg]

Hes saying basically, that he has become proficient at his shooting style. He uses a drop, is more comfortable with it, and appearantly performs better with it.

He said he's tried rail mounts. Doesnt like 'em. So? Thats his thing, not yours.

So let him use a drop if he wants to.

Exactly. I've actually learned how to fire fast when needed by holding it the way I do. Doesn't hurt my wrist and I can still get good strings off when needed.