Drop Forward: Whats the Problem?

[Empyreal Rogue]

It seems that no one has mentioned this yet.....a drop makes your gun taller. Your hopper is higher. Easier to hit, harder to keep in. And that alone makes a huge difference.

Not with my Q-Loader under the barrel.

Seriously though, like EVERYTHING in paintball it just boils down to preference. That's what makes this sport so great, variety.

[teufelhunden]

Not with my Q-Loader under the barrel.

Yeah, but that just makes your snapping profile larger.

[sneakyhacker420]

I'm not sure, I have a unimount right now, and I like the feel of drop forwards better...

if its a new-style black-black unimount, consider it sold (if you want to sell it that is)


i used to have a 3" drop, it was freakin perfect, then since it was the n00b craze, i went out and got a phatty 8" PMI drop, and i HATED that, so i went and got a 2.5" SP drop (one of the few good things they still make) and i fell in love with that for a while

eventually i picked up a shocktech mini drop cause it was the cheapest drop there was at the time and i needed one right then and there - i fell in love with that

sold that and then got a unimount, but i was stupid enough to sell that, so i picked up an evil on/off kit and then put a CP rail on that


most of the people that still use drops now a days have small arms (the lil' kids)

but ever since i went from 8" drop to no drop, that was probably the best thing i've ever done for myself

and this isnt really hype to me, my gun became more balanced (with an 88 stub), i can shoot faster cause my hand isnt in some weird form anymore, and i can snap shoot alot easier

[dansim]

i love my drop...and its a looooonnnnng one, i dont shoulder when i run i just shoot, since its a paintball gun i have no recoil to make up for,and i can certainly steady my gun without shouldering it....also for arguments sake i have a ygrip

[xXHavokXx]

I cant use a drop on my 90 framed angel, I have to use a rail, it just feels good but on my 45 framed dm4 i have to use a drop otherwise I may as well be holding a rifle or shot gun.

[mr_cunduh]

not using drops is agg....

j/p

the lack of strain on my wrists from my evil rail allows me to shoot much faster than with my old tuck tite drop....

also there is the height issue. however far down you are dropping your tank, you are making your whole setup taller. Now for mags and new shockers its ok bc they are j plain short gun, but on a bushy, impulse or even an angel it can account for a much taller setup than say any marker with a rail setup.

while it is personal preference, i prefer comfort and a fast, long, but short (omen/amg with rail and no rise) setup, thus minimizing any sort of gun hits.

[Cryer]

Just to restate what I said in another 'drop vs rail' thread (as well as expounding on Dansim's point above. He makes a very key point in this debate, btw):

Perhaps another thing to note:

Not everyone shoulders their marker like a rifle. I've seen people (using a large drop, mind you) cradle the back of the tank at the bottom of their bicep and be amazingly accurate with it. In the past, with one of my setups, I actually rested the tank on the outer side of my shoulder. I've seen others use this technique, too...

People all dont hold their markers straight vertical. Many people "cross it over". (press the tank against one shoulder, and angle the gun to where the hopper is on the other side of their body).

Not everyone grips their 45 frame like they would grip a pistol. I for one, rarely wrap my thumb around the gripframe. That hand is for pulling the trigger, not holding the gun. Thats why foregrips are so popular. I've seen many people shoot in a similar manner.

My preference is towards rails or unimounts. As is yours appearently (Whether that is dictated by your personal experience or because the laws of physics prohibit otherwise, I havent a clue, but thats your perogative, not mine).

Others prefer different shooting styles. They hold their gun differently. They use a different size tank, or they have a shorter barrel.

When it all is said and done with, who had more fun? You, preoccupied with the logical aspect of everyone else's setup? Or the ones who have come to grips with the fact that everyone makes an equally appealing target?

That is, after all, what this whole game is about, right? If not, I think I may be in the wrong place, and you can disregard everything I've said here.

There is no standard by which one can judge everyone in this case. People hold there setups differently, people have different length arms, some people do it just because it gives you something to rant about. And thats fine.

While I recommend to people that they should try a rail or unimount, I dont try and discredit their theory on why they have their setup the way they do.

[st6212]

There are ways to have a drop and avoid the awkward wrist syndrome. And there are ways to have a direct rail mount without making your setup exceptionally long.

Drops and rail mounts that position the tank in a 45 degree angle. That way it simulates a compact setup, while still being able to shoulder the tank AND avoid the wrist strain by keeping that tank body out of the way.

For example:

http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/2539/

or

http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/3594/

And here's a neat gadget as well, it let's you move the tank postion. This is the second one I've seen of this type, I believe Nitroduck were the first to produce this type of product. But this one is alot better than Nitroduck's clunky original.

http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/1883/

[RRfireblade]

Holy time Warps Batman.

[dahoeb]

well since this thread has been risen from the dead, i'll go ahead and throw in a post.

I've tried using drops, rails, and just standard bottomlines and i find the drop to be the best choice.
I agree that HUGE drops are somewhat overkill, but a small to medium sized drop works great FOR ME. It makes the marker uber comfy to hold and has no effect on my shooting ability. When i play with a rail or bottomline, it gets annoying when i try to snap shoot and when i have to play really tight into a bunker. and ontop of that, the gun just doesn't feel balanced at all.
drops MAY force the elbow out a little bit, which could theororetically make it more vulnerable to getting shot when snapshooting, but i have NEVER EVER been shot in the elbow. and having a comfortable, well balanced markers does wonders in helping me quickly aim in and fire when i'm under pressure.
simply put, i'm going to be able to perform best when i'm most comfortable, and if a small-medium drop make me more comfortable, then thats what i'll use.
the gun you use does make a big difference though in whether you use a rail/bottom line or drop. markers with 90 degree frames don't need one nearly as much as something with a standard frame.
some people have said that having a bottomline or drop will increase trigger speed and stuff. I haven't found it to have any effect on my trigger speed, and even if it did, i still wouldn't ditch my drop. I'd rather have a comfortable, well balanced marker than be uncomfortable with a 3 foot long unbalanced setup, all for the sake of being able to fire 1 or 2 bps faster.
but like its been said about 4.65 million times before, it really is all preference, its a give and take situation. what do you value more, which do you prefer. everyone is gonna be different.

[sneakyhacker420]

thought i'd make a guest appearance cause i got an email notification for a post in this thread...


05-28-2004, 01:11 PM was the last post by Cryer... hot poop, you really dug this up

[st6212]

Lol yeah, I just noticed the dates....I dunno what happen there it was sitting at the top of my screen, so thought it was recent.

Probably part of a search I did and not realised it

[thefool]

what ever happened to drop backwards's

[SpitFire1299]

I think they put your gun like WAYY up in the air making it easier to get hit in the hopper. Also in my opinion, it feels like crap.

[ottomobile]

HAHA! Soon My BackBottle Mag will be in style again!!!