?????ANYWAY possible to use CO2?????

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  • batteryfree
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    • Jul 2003
    • 196

    #1

    ?????ANYWAY possible to use CO2?????

    ok i know that i have to use Compressed air for my x valve. But why couldnt i use like a really good antisiphone co2 tank with an expantion chamber. wouldnt that make sure that no liquid CO2 gets to the gun. becosue isn't teh liquid CO2 what kills your gun when you use co2?

    And by the way i know that CO2 sucks. but i just want to be able o shoot stuff for some woods ball in my back yard.(my tank only gets 400 shots)
  • Aliens-8-MyDad
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    • Oct 2001
    • 2244

    #2
    ive seen angels running on it before, I always thought it would be possible as long as no liquid would enter the valve, but im not gonna be the first to test it. heh heh heh...
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    • WARPED1
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      • Nov 2001
      • 7458

      #3
      Something to do with recharge rated and PSI stuff.
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      • Mr. Frodo
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        • Apr 2004
        • 55

        #4
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        See post number 40.

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        • RRfireblade

          • Jun 2002
          • 5103

          #5
          There have been quite a few people run CO2 on R/T/X valves.While is not recommended,it has been shown to be possible with fairly decent results.
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            • Nov 2003
            • 3180

            #6
            Originally posted by Mr. Frodo

            Hey, someone else sticking up for CO2, gotta love it!


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            • Kevmaster
              Owners Group Div: Director
              • Oct 2001
              • 5475

              #7
              the recharge speed would heat the Co2 and thus increase the pressure drastically...causing flucutating speeds....BAD.

              Co2 just can NOT be used with the Retro / X - Valve

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              • trains are bad
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                • Oct 2003
                • 1751

                #8
                I love CO2--but it's no good for mags. I promise you will not get good results, the main reason being it can't sustain the high input pressure of the X.


                I would try it on an angel, impulse, shocker, trix, bushy.
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                • Mr. Frodo
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                  • Apr 2004
                  • 55

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Kevmaster
                  the recharge speed would heat the Co2 and thus increase the pressure drastically...causing flucutating speeds....BAD.

                  Co2 just can NOT be used with the Retro / X - Valve

                  Unless you're talking about the friction from a valve, depressurizing CO2 during recharge will cause a temperature to go down in the tank as wll as in the valve.

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                  • RRfireblade

                    • Jun 2002
                    • 5103

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kevmaster
                    Co2 just can NOT be used with the Retro / X - Valve
                    Well.........

                    It's already been done,as I stated,with pretty decent results so you may want to rethink that..................

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                    • lord1234
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                      • Apr 2003
                      • 1558

                      #11
                      its been done..but generally after about 7 high speed shots..your in the pooper...and need some new orings...

                      my suggestion, save the money on orings...but a crossfire tank.
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                      • RRfireblade

                        • Jun 2002
                        • 5103

                        #12
                        That's not true either,I've dropped hoppers at a time on CO2.

                        If there's anymore fabrication in this thread,the Mods are gonna have to move it to the 'Workshop".
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                        • TheTramp
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                          • Jan 2001
                          • 4019

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Mr. Frodo
                          Unless you're talking about the friction from a valve, depressurizing CO2 during recharge will cause a temperature to go down in the tank as wll as in the valve.
                          He is talking about friction in the valve. It recharges so fast that you can get a small about of shoot up. I don't know how the interaction of cooling from the CO2 and heating from friction would differ from the straight heeting of HPA.

                          I'll probably never find out as I don't use my E-Mag if I absolutly have to use CO2.
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                          • scrumpy
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                            • Mar 2004
                            • 524

                            #14
                            The way the x valve, e-mag valve, basically any RT valve works is it sucks the gas out of the tank. If you're running c02 it WILL suck liquid out, so the liquid will be shot out and expand. Your first shot may be okay, but the next one will run uber hot, maybe 500fps or more. Absolutly no co2 on the rt style valves simply for safety reasons.

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                            • Kevmaster
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                              • Oct 2001
                              • 5475

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TheTramp
                              He is talking about friction in the valve. It recharges so fast that you can get a small about of shoot up. I don't know how the interaction of cooling from the CO2 and heating from friction would differ from the straight heeting of HPA.

                              I'll probably never find out as I don't use my E-Mag if I absolutly have to use CO2.
                              yep...im talking about the friction.

                              and co2 is MUCH more volitile than HPA/N2. it fluctuates a lot more than n2. however, even with n2, you'll notice it does heat up as you have to chrono with hte "RT Chrono Procedures" to get an accurate chrono.


                              rr...while it may have worked, i would strongly recommend against it

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