Omen, Shocker, Anything elese?

[Iron Mag13]

Well i was wondering what a good gun would be (beside an agd have money set -800-aside just waiting for them to stop "laying low" lol) a good gun lol!?!?!? well i dont like cockers because u hve to tweak them and keep them REALY clean, i was thinking of the shocker or omen but wanted some specs. as most of u know im REALLY lazy so i just want the basics, Bps , stuff like that. also if anyone has any other guns that would be good that would be awsome. also no angels lol to pricey just something that shoots fast and well.

Thanks Iron

[barrel break]

well, Cockers DON'T actually require that much maintanence, but I'd go for a matrix, with eyes

[TheDuelist]

Save a few more bucks and buy a Cyborg. They are light, low maintenance, efficient, fast, have eyes and come with a pretty nice barrel. Out of the box it is a really nice buy. If you haven't looked at one you should.

[tyrion2323]

Well, I'm shooting an Omen right now (well, technically I'm typing right now, but you get the point!) and I'm IN LOVE with it!

Stock Specs:
CAM anti-chop system
15bps board (upgradeable to 25bps for $50)
Delrin bolt
Detonator Regulator
Extremely reliable
Easily maintainable

PROS:
Fast and easy. This is a "turn on and go" type of deal. It's not equipped with WAS or any sort of cheat-board. It's 15bps, gets some bounce, and it's damned simple to maintain. The only regular maintainence that you'll worry about is setting the re-cocking adjustment whenever you adjust the velocity. Simple stuff...if you know how to read . The CAM feed disallows your marker from breaking a ball in the breech - period. As long as the recock is set correctly, you will never break a ball again (discounting barrel breaks...) Upgrades are easy and cheap (PDP chip, new cocking rod, feedneck)

CONS:
The 15bps is kind of a bummer. The stock feedneck is approximately 12 feet tall.

CONCLUSION:
Well, I'm biased, but I'll be the first (and not the last) to recommend the Omen to you! For $400 you can purchase a used omen, get a PDP chip and send it into PMI (for free) for a tune-up and have a kick-butt marker at your disposal!

Peace,

Jacob

[tony3]

Jacob, if you are implying that was is somehow a cheater board you couldn't be more wrong. You can make a was board to bounce, but I bet I could get an Omen to bounce like crazy, as a fact, I've tried an omen and it had a lot of bounce. Combined with the kick and light weight trigger, it bounced a lot. Was boards have a debounce setting to GET RID of bounce. Most people use it the other way around, it isn't wicked air sports fault that others are making their own guns cheater guns. You will never get past the chrono with a gun on debounce 1, so I hardely consider it a cheater board.

Tony

[tyrion2323]

What I mean by a "cheater board" is that by allowing the user to adjust the dwell, debounce and such, you allow the user to tweak the marker to possibly break the rules. Sure, you can get bounce on the omen, but you have to work pretty hard to set up the marker to bounce all the time...

Anyways, no harm meant.

[ilikePB]

$50 more and you could get a DevilMag.

[rkjunior303]

i second the Omen idea, since I own one myself.. Great marker, i HAVE the pdp chip and the thing rips.. I am more than happy with it. I bought it used and PMI was still very accomidating towards any problems I had.. They are great.

[Skoad]

First, post how much your willing to spend. And if you need something other than a gun break it down, like if you need to buy a hpa tank also...

[penguinpunk555]

Cyborg. nuff said.

[notcreative]

straight up a brand new dye matrix with eyes will only set you back 750 best deal around you get a gun that is more efficent then the shocker and has a lot smother shot than that of the omen. The omen chews through the bumpers like mad and evil wants 7 bucks for them

[TheDoveDecends]

Matrix.. gen e or dye.. doesnt matter. But if its a gen e just make sure you have a halo b and keep your lpr tuned.

get a trix

[Dante's Inferno]

I seriously distust anything Evil, especially the Omen. I had an Evil Respirator on my old Impulse and, from how that worked, they have very, very bad maintenence checks from the factory. When I tried to replace it, I encountered considerable difficulty even contacting someone who was willing to help me solve my problem. Sorry, but an Omen is just an Impulse knockoff with a few differences.

[Evil1]

I wouldn't rule out an 03 shocker either. I have one that I bought used back in February and I did have a bunch of problems with it at first only because it was an early model with the old delrin bolt and the old on/off switch that broke easy. I got the new bolt from SP and it worked better, than I got the HE bolt from SP and now it is way more efficient than before. I can get a little over 1000 shots with a 3k fill on a 68 with the HE bolt. The gun is very light and accurate. It is very quiet and easy to hold a high ROF with. I just flipped the microswitch around on mine and now it absolutely mows. I am usually good for 1 or 2 off the break. It was good before I flipped my switch, but now it is even better. The only real complaint I have with the gun is that the eye is sensitive to different paint colors. It does not like All Star paint by RP scherer or marbalizers depending on the color. Another thing you may hear is that 03 shockers are blenders. The only time I chopped with it was when my Halo took a dump on me in the middle of a game. ( out of 10 people that flme the 03 shocker don't know the first thing about setting them up or maintaining them which is not hard at all.

[tyrion2323]

I seriously distust anything Evil, especially the Omen. I had an Evil Respirator on my old Impulse and, from how that worked, they have very, very bad maintenence checks from the factory. When I tried to replace it, I encountered considerable difficulty even contacting someone who was willing to help me solve my problem. Sorry, but an Omen is just an Impulse knockoff with a few differences.

That's an unfortunate view on evil, and a completely incorrect assessment of the Omen. Please, unless you have experience with an Omen, which it seems that you don't, please don't give your "opinions" on the Omen. I don't talk about the Cyborg, Matrix and new Shocker, so don't bag on the Omen.

The Omen is extremely easy to maintain. If anything goes wrong, PMI will service and fix your marker for free. Absolutely for free. And the turn around is 2 weeks on average. I've sent mine in a few times for periodic check-ups (first when I purchased it used, and just a few weeks ago because I'm about to get it milled, so I wanted it factory-approved)

PMI service is as good as AGD's service, and that's saying something.