Omen, Shocker, Anything elese?

[rkjunior303]

That's an unfortunate view on evil, and a completely incorrect assessment of the Omen. Please, unless you have experience with an Omen, which it seems that you don't, please don't give your "opinions" on the Omen. I don't talk about the Cyborg, Matrix and new Shocker, so don't bag on the Omen.

The Omen is extremely easy to maintain. If anything goes wrong, PMI will service and fix your marker for free. Absolutely for free. And the turn around is 2 weeks on average. I've sent mine in a few times for periodic check-ups (first when I purchased it used, and just a few weeks ago because I'm about to get it milled, so I wanted it factory-approved)

PMI service is as good as AGD's service, and that's saying something.

I second this. Every time I have had anything happen to my marker, I have had nothing but great service from PMI. They even overnighted me a new set of internals (for free) when I broke a hammer pin a few days before a tournament here locally.. Great set of guys over there.

[Iron Mag13]

so everyone is saying either an omen or a matrix. and considering i dont know anything about an matrix (ie. bps and such) ill c into an omen. But if you want to purswade me differtly lol u still can

Thanks Iron

[paintpiggie]

between a matrix and an omen,
id go with the matrix.

the matrix is a bit more popular,
meaning, more aftermarket parts.
all kinds of crazy triggerjobs.
and some trigger frames,
spool valve systems
with a matrix, you gotta work the air regulation
but once you get it right, it's really soft on the ball
i rarely see matrixes break balls

and it's really fast, with very very little kick

the omen is fast too, dont get me wrong
but it's got that backblock that reminds me too much of a cocker
and you're not a big cocker fan.

this guy i know has an omen,
and i dont know if he's just unlucky or whatever,
but every time he gets out on the field to play
something starts to leak, he breaks balls in the camfeed
or it just wont shoot.

but when he gets them working, it's really fast and pretty accurate.

so yeah,
i'd go with a matrix.

[Altimas]

If you decide on an Omen I can get you new one for a little under 450$. Just email me on it.
[email protected]

[Iron Mag13]

well as you can c i can get one for 450 here http://www.xtremez.com/paintball/pro...O&cmpid=otc-dt and can someone post a link so i can c what the specs are for the matrix?

Thanks Iron

[Dante's Inferno]

That's an unfortunate view on evil, and a completely incorrect assessment of the Omen. Please, unless you have experience with an Omen, which it seems that you don't, please don't give your "opinions" on the Omen. I don't talk about the Cyborg, Matrix and new Shocker, so don't bag on the Omen.

The Omen is extremely easy to maintain. If anything goes wrong, PMI will service and fix your marker for free. Absolutely for free. And the turn around is 2 weeks on average. I've sent mine in a few times for periodic check-ups (first when I purchased it used, and just a few weeks ago because I'm about to get it milled, so I wanted it factory-approved)

PMI service is as good as AGD's service, and that's saying something.

No, I have no real experience with an Omen on the field. However, to me, the customer service and the behavior of the employees is a reflection of their product, and they definatley recieved a failure in that category. Even worse than Smart Parts.......at times.

If you do buy an Omen, I hope it good and I hope you love it. I hope you dont have the same experience as me with bumbling fools.

Still, between a 'Trix and an Omen? 'Trix definatley has a better standing in my book. (Yes, I have LOTS of experience with a Trix)

[bunkermaster10]

Don't get a OMEN plz don't . And matrixs aren't bad super close to being a shocker but shocker is much much light (crappy eyes though kinda)... Seriously listen to me young baller get a shocker or a timmy. You'll end up getting one before you know it, everybody does. Might as well buy one now save you time

[Iron Mag13]

Yea i would get a matrix but i was looking 1k is to hight for me and the omen is 450. how fast does the shocker shoot? i need some info here in order wich one to pick.

Thanks Iron

[notcreative]

matrix only will set u back 750 no 1000 dollars dye droped the price
specs break beam eyes
as fast as any gun on the market
in my opion they shoot alot like the old skool shocker but faster and more effiecent

[Iron Mag13]

well 700 hmmmm dont know i still kinda like the omem. how fast it shoot? and any upgradable boards (also need to know the $ and BPS) and also iv heard u guys talking aobut the cyborg or something what are they and a link would be nice

Wow Thanks Guys You Have Been A Help

Thanks Iron

[sithos]

huh???

I'm sorry.. did i miss something? The omen and a matrix are in COMPLETLY different leagues. Even Evil Factory doesn't shoot omens. (they shoot timmys and impulses from what I saw when i hung out with john rathbun) To be fair, the omen is a really neat design. but its kinda like a piranah crossed with a cocker with a weird feed system.

The matrix is a TOP level tournament marker. Out of the box, it rips. There are TONS of upgrades for it. Honestly, a properly setup 03 matrix is better than a dm4. I have experince with this first hand. Yes, dm4s are fast and look (good?) but the efficiency leaves something to be desired in a gun that sells for $1350 (our team got to borrow some for free for LA)

HOWEVER..
The matrix is a difficult marker to learn to tech well. There are very many parts and orings and little things you have to look for, but when set up properly, you just turn it on and start shooting.


By the way.. if you want to save a LOT of money and just have a gun that shoots fast and doesn't break paint, get a Dragun "the one"
They are $250 from www.custompbsolutions.com (no, i dont work there, i bought mine there) or any of the larger dragun dealers.

Basically, its a spyder thats been converted into a timmy. It is true electro pnuematic, max bps 30 (limited to 26 or so due to backpressure) Its got spring return instead of pnuematic, but so does a mag and look how fast they can cycle. It does need new regs, but you can put a timmy front block on there and any reg of your choosing for around $100. Oh.. and its got an eye thats as good or better than the ones smartparts uses, and definatly better than the eblade eyes.

So my opinion?? (like you care.. )
Matrix for high end long term investment
Dragun "The One" for short term rippability and lendouttofriendlaterness (thats a word.. really..)


If you do get a dragun, talk to me. I have a number of EASY mods that will get it shooting as fast as your average timmy with was. (I've got less than 15gram, 1mm trigger pull with magnetic return for zero bouncing)

[ilikePB]

Can I quote myself? To bad I just did.

$50 more and you could get a DevilMag.

[Chanting]DevilMag, DevilMag, DevilMag,.......[/Chanting]

[Iron Mag13]

Heya the Dragun sounds cool lol post some pics and **** like that. sithos i pmed u ok? thanks alot! i might look into a matrix tho.

Thanks Iron

[thump]

wait for the new evil pimp to come out,it look ssweet.the rate of fire is supose to be uncapped,so as fast as you can shoot and your hopper can keep up is your limit.
thats what i will be getting this sumer when it comes out.

[TheDoveDecends]

You can get a Gen E LED trix for around 500.. even a LCD if you catch a good deal. I would seriously consider a Matrix man..