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  • Automaget
    Monk! I need a Monk! (AOE)
    • Jun 2004
    • 111

    #1

    Dry fireing?

    Im not trying to spam the forum by doing this but I think i figured out why im waisting gas so fast when i dry fire, iv herd for every 1 dry fire its 4 paintballs going out the gun is this true? i guess whan im trying to say is for every 1 dryfire its really takeing the gas of 4 paintballs being shot i hope you get when im saying. so is this true or not? but right now i think agd needs to come out with lvl13 to stop gas cunsumption. ps. cant wait
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  • Halliday
    Level 10
    • Oct 2000
    • 1655

    #2
    I couldn't read all of that, but you are right. Dryfiring wastes way more air than just playing/shooting paint.

    I dryfire about 30 times at the beginning of the day to cycle oil thru my Mags, and that's it. The rest of my air gets paint


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    • PsychoBaller
      Gone are my SFL days...
      • Nov 2000
      • 1952

      #3
      Correct, dryfireing wastes mad amts o gas, as apposed to shooting paint.

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      • magman007
        I <3 my Penis
        • Jun 2001
        • 7579

        #4
        Well, i dont see how this is true, look, when the marker is set to the specific FPS, then it uses the same amount of gas each firing cycle to propel a ball down the barrel. Now, that same amount of gas is used in a dry fire. just with out the ball being propelled down the barrel.

        Physically speaking the same volume of air, cannot be changed whether there is a ball in the chamber or not.



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        • ZapTheMad
          The local MADMAN!
          • Jan 2004
          • 709

          #5
          When the gun fires a ball, the ball creates back pressure which leaves some residual pressure in the valve. When you dry fire, there is no back pressure so all that extra back pressure is wasted.




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          • Butterfingers
            PhD in Automagology
            • Jan 2001
            • 2263

            #6
            yep the entire chamber gets dumped when dryfiring. When shooting a pb the backpressure keeps residual air in the chamber
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            • FallNAngel
              Registered User
              • Apr 2003
              • 1076

              #7
              Originally posted by magman007
              Well, i dont see how this is true
              I guess you've never dry fired your marker before
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              • paint magnet
                Member # 10,261
                • Dec 2001
                • 2488

                #8
                I talked to an AKA tech, and they said basically what you guys have said. This is why they recommend turning the bolt around backwards on Vikings if you're dry firing it, then it uses even less air than when you're firing paint (which is next to nothing to start with ) This is only with the Viking though, it may work with other guns but I don't recommend you try it, as guns running on higher pressure may damage their internals by having all that pressure forced back into the gun. And of course, the amount of air used will vary depending on the type of gun, rate of fire, and velocity setting.
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                • RedBeard
                  Registered User
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 52

                  #9
                  Ok, this might not be the brightest of ideas but if since the obvious reason you use more air when dry firing is because there is no ball to stop al the air in the chamber from being used, what if you just shove a sock in your barrel?
                  Where are we going and why am I in this basket?

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                  • xXHavokXx
                    Section XIII.
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 860

                    #10
                    This wouldnt work with a matrix then right? Doesn't the matrix seal off the valve chamber when it fires?

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                    • magman007
                      I <3 my Penis
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 7579

                      #11
                      well i realize some residual back pressure is kept in the valve, but i cannot see how it can effect that much.



                      Originally posted by Tom in reffrence to a post saying he acted like my dad...
                      "That's right!
                      WHO'S YOUR DADDY!!"
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                      • cphilip
                        Former Moderator

                        • Jun 2026
                        • 16216

                        #12
                        Originally posted by magman007
                        well i realize some residual back pressure is kept in the valve, but i cannot see how it can effect that much.
                        It does.


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                        • magman007
                          I <3 my Penis
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 7579

                          #13
                          hey ya learn something new every day! Oh well! i stand corrected!



                          Originally posted by Tom in reffrence to a post saying he acted like my dad...
                          "That's right!
                          WHO'S YOUR DADDY!!"
                          ALL QUIT AND NO GO!!! Team Icky Forest-Shatnerball 2003!!!
                          www.tunamart.com
                          DONT SUPPORT HYPOCRITICAL MISSLEAD YOUTH, BOYCOTT HK

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                          • spleefstylez
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                            • Jun 2003
                            • 1743

                            #14
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                            • elpimpo
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                              • Nov 2002
                              • 1713

                              #15
                              im with you magman007, im confused because i thought that it allows so much air out one way or another
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