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  • magman007
    I <3 my Penis
    • Jun 2001
    • 7579

    #16
    one thing i will say, is i found the opto board really hard to rip on. I wasnt a fan of it.


    Also, one thing that really matters to me, is kick. Now, the angel and the timmy barely kick, but the dm4 kicks that much less.

    There is some cool stuff out for the dm4 too, the xsf chip, or the was chip, which arent really needed at all, but they are nice touches, Evolve will be out soon, and SLICK HONEY!!!


    Best damn lube... EVAR! you will be runnign your dm4 as low as 45-50 psi once you lube up the lpr and bolt.


    also the dm4 is really really easy to take care of, more so than the angel or the timmy in my opinion.



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    • rkjunior303
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      • May 2003
      • 4029

      #17
      what about a nice hooked up viking? Just another though..

      A kid had an alias at the field 2 weeks ago and the thing bounced like crazy -- stock. Maybe it was his setup, I don't know but just a thought. I would deffintely shoot both and make a decision.

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      • nastymag
        XPSL D2/ Nppl D2
        • Dec 2000
        • 924

        #18
        Funny ..... ive never had bolt stick. if the people where suffering from bolt stick the probably had there lpr way lor or the dwell to high.
        i found the opto board REALLY easy to rip on, and most people who have shoot mine say the same thing. but i can see how its not like a micro switch so it could be hard to get use to.

        you can lower the LPR So much on a fly, basiclly you can turn it into totally diffirent feels of how it fires.


        the qouted wieght of the Alias is 1.4 .....with out the reg or barrel.

        i say try them out, both are good guns, i really do enjoy Angels more then any other gun.
        so im biased.
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        • elpimpo
          carpe noctem
          • Nov 2002
          • 1713

          #19
          you can put a was board in the timmy and still have the lcd display. the settings are very easy to get to in the timmy, and they just flat rip with that was board. they are easier to work on then an angel (at least an lcd)
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          • Digits
            Canuckle
            • Feb 2003
            • 1329

            #20
            Originally posted by $tevo
            yea its another vs thread..

            when i get back from vacation im buyin a new marker and i narrowed it down to these 2.. i hear nothing but good things about both, im leaning towards the fly because it has one of the best eyes out and i like the reinsurance that i know it wont chop. but i have an awesome timmy tech 5 mins down the street from me and i really like the alias.

            i will be shooting someones fly in a little more then a week and i have shot an alias. this will be my first electro. since i got 1600 for graduation and more is on its way, i am gonna be buying top end electro.

            so if you know anything about the 2, give reasons why i should get which one.
            Don't believe the hype of the A4.. The eyes are just break beam.. The only difference is they use a ribbon which they claim is faster.. But there is no possible way you would ever outshoot a normal wire so don't believe that crap.. Plus ribbons seem extremelly fragile and if water were to get on it i'm sure it would mess something up.. So IMO the way they set the eyes up with the ribbon is stupid..

            So get an Alias or a DM4.. Both will be pimptastic guns.. The biggest thing the DM4 has over the alias though is resale.. If you got a DM4 and decided you didn't like it you could trade it for an alias no problem.. An Alias is a bit harder to trade for a DM4 though

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            • elpimpo
              carpe noctem
              • Nov 2002
              • 1713

              #21
              the only thing that i think gives the dm4 the slight edge is that it sounds soo freaking cool.
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              • $tevo
                Steve
                • Apr 2002
                • 881

                #22
                well iwill have to shoot all 3 to find out what one i will choose. sounds like everyone is between the dm4 and alias, but ill decide what one i like more..

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                • Worrgames2k98
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                  • Jun 2004
                  • 16

                  #23
                  I say alias, they are an amazing peice of eqipment, but thats my opinion on wich one i like better, fly4 has better performance, and the DM4 well what can i say about it? its like both the guns having sex and this is its offspring,lol
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                  • gc82000
                    LNIB just a few scratches
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 1346

                    #24
                    The best thing about a DM4 is that it is so fugly it starts to look good. And that it comes with a ultralite barrel. other then that it aint all that. I would rather get a Matrix then a Dm4 or a timmy. But i got an A4 and mag and I am not looking back. And besides look at the guys with timmys, every time we go out to play these are the guys who have to sit out to replce o-rings. If you shoot to fast the bumpers wear away. If not greased enough the orings desinegrate. All that I needed to do was oil my angel for the past two tourneys and nine weekends and it is fine. I would like to see a timmys go through that with barely any maintainance required.
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                    • elpimpo
                      carpe noctem
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 1713

                      #25
                      okay, how about 2 7 mans and 2 3 mans, plus i shoot at least 17 and ive gotten it up to 28 in a game and its still perfect, all i do is lube my ram
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                      • bunkermaster10
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                        • Dec 2002
                        • 1316

                        #26
                        I've shot both and both are freaking awesome. I don't know which one is better though. The Alias is probably is a lil' bit more smoother shooting wise. Go w/ the cheapest one. I probably get tje Alias just because resale purposes in the future.
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                        • eg0_Slayer
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                          • Apr 2003
                          • 145

                          #27
                          what would you choose between an angel force4(not fly) and an alias. cuz i have a choice between those two. sorry for hijacking your thread!

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                          • elpimpo
                            carpe noctem
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 1713

                            #28
                            alias, the only decent a4 out there is the fly and the joy division
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                            • Ripper machinist
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                              • Jan 2003
                              • 22

                              #29
                              Originally posted by gc82000
                              The best thing about a DM4 is that it is so fugly it starts to look good. .
                              I actualy do not like the milling myself. Even though I create some crazy mill patterns. I just dont feel they put enough detail into their work. It seems they tried to cheeze on the 3d milling by putting to big of a internal radius to cut down mill time.


                              Originally posted by gc82000
                              If you shoot to fast the bumpers wear away. .
                              Bumper problem is gone on all new alias platform timmies. I doubt anyone will wear out a bumper anytime soon, and if they do it is a super easy fix.


                              Originally posted by gc82000
                              If not greased enough the orings desinegrate. All that I needed to do was oil my angel for the past two tourneys and nine weekends and it is fine. I would like to see a timmys go through that with barely any maintainance required.
                              I have never had a problem with orings. So dont know what to say when people say they have had problems. Just like any gun a little light maintenance and the gun will work flawlessly.

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                              • elpimpo
                                carpe noctem
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 1713

                                #30
                                ive put probly 20 or 30 cases threw my timmy and changed 1 ram bumper and its because it started the crack a little
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