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  • WARPED1
    I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
    • Nov 2001
    • 7458

    #1

    More LP mythbusting(thank god)

    Hope you know your math!
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  • gtrsi
    Automag?
    • Dec 2001
    • 5786

    #2
    Originally posted by WARPED1

    one quick comment, will read when i get back to the house.

    I have noticed that, even on the kingman boards, lp is being denounced. One thing I am still seeing is that higher flow=more effiency. Now that may be true on lower pressure, i.e cars, I dont think its the case in paintball. We run such high pressures that I dont think there is really any difference when comparing flow X-Y, other than a decrease in effiency, in reality changing volume X-Y.


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    • RRfireblade

      • Jun 2002
      • 5103

      #3
      Well, I'm not going to read all that.

      I'll just say this in regards to LP.

      LP is not "hype", some of the claims attributed to LP may be hype but there are definately differences in running a marker or any pnuematic device at either higher or lower operating pressures, some of those differences will be positive and some will be negetive.

      All other things being equal and as it applies to paintball,it will typically be benificial to operate at the lowest pressure that gives the most efficency.A great deviation from that in either direction will normally be detrimental to max overall performance.

      IMO, lower pressures create less internal friction,less overall wear on parts(o-rings etc),and is generally easier on the internals of the Marker.It often allows the use of smaller/lighter springs,smaller/lighter soleniods and typically either smaller/lighter batteries or longer battery life.Added to any gains in effeciency, the ability to shoot to a lower pressure state of the air source and you have still another benefit.

      So......

      Just my opinions, I'm sure others will vary.

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      • elpimpo
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        • Nov 2002
        • 1713

        #4
        why do they have to mix letters in with math
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        • spacedtedybear
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          • Jan 2003
          • 613

          #5
          Later on the last equation was expressed as a=kVPF'. But we don't need to know that. You just need to know a little bit of algebra and chemistry. This eqauation can also be expressed as a/V=kPF'. Now acceleration, F', and k are constants, so what you are left here is P=1/V which is nothing but Boyle's law. In fact in the end, he's pretty much came up with P=F/A ( pressure= force/area)

          In an alegebriac equation such as this, you know that the variables are either going to be directly proportional or inversly proportional to one another. in this case pressure is inversly proportional to the volume. When you introduce a constant, the solution will always be the same.

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          • xXHavokXx
            Section XIII.
            • Aug 2003
            • 860

            #6
            I buy into the LP hype, why? 'trixxies.

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            • kopfjaeger
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              • Jan 2002
              • 309

              #7
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              • spyder_technician
                My Mag Works Better
                • Jun 2004
                • 149

                #8
                In regards to such markers as Spyders, the lower operating pressure of the marker will be easier on paint. In those markers they can run off of both extremes of pressures. Some run at pressures of 250 psi while others run at upwards of 800 psi. It is important to remember that if the marker is being cycled at 800 psi, there is no difference of pressure on the paint. In that situation, the paint is being hit with 800 psi. In mags or cockers, the pressure is being regulated for the sake of the marker. They simply can't be cycled at 800 psi or they will face serious damage or just simply refuse to work. They, in a way, provide themselves with their own brand of protection.

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                • WARPED1
                  I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 7458

                  #9
                  Originally posted by elpimpo
                  why do they have to mix letters in with math
                  Must be that 20th century math..............
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                  • elpimpo
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                    • Nov 2002
                    • 1713

                    #10
                    damn 20th century
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                    • Automaget
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                      • Jun 2004
                      • 111

                      #11
                      how do they get so smart i wish i could do that but thats way over my head! but im sure hes right so yahoo
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                      • FallNAngel
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                        • Apr 2003
                        • 1076

                        #12
                        Originally posted by spyder_technician
                        It is important to remember that if the marker is being cycled at 800 psi, there is no difference of pressure on the paint. In that situation, the paint is being hit with 800 psi.
                        Actually the ball will only see around 50-125psi ... like any other marker on the market.
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                        • Miscue
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                          • Oct 2000
                          • 7105

                          #13
                          Joke's on you! All paintball markers are low pressure behind the ball.

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                          • spyder_technician
                            My Mag Works Better
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 149

                            #14
                            I think it would see a little more than that. I just think it gets a shorter burst of a higher pressure. Sorta the difference between kickin a field goal and throwing a pass. They both might go the same distance, but I'd like to see you drop kick a paintball!

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                            • Enemy
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                              • Aug 2003
                              • 1245

                              #15
                              im with miscue and the website on this one the only difference between high pressure and low pressures in reality is the ability to shot way deeper into the tank!!! my mag would get 1700 shots off of an 88/4500 psi fill if i started seeing drop off at around 250 psi as opposed to 850.. other than that ease of operation and youve pretty got the argument killed.
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