More LP mythbusting(thank god)

[GT]

In regards to such markers as Spyders, the lower operating pressure of the marker will be easier on paint. In those markers they can run off of both extremes of pressures. Some run at pressures of 250 psi while others run at upwards of 800 psi. It is important to remember that if the marker is being cycled at 800 psi, there is no difference of pressure on the paint. In that situation, the paint is being hit with 800 psi. In mags or cockers, the pressure is being regulated for the sake of the marker. They simply can't be cycled at 800 psi or they will face serious damage or just simply refuse to work. They, in a way, provide themselves with their own brand of protection.

wow there is so much wrong with that paragraph

[spyder_technician]

Ok, so maybe my analysis was a little off... wouldn't surprise me. But, are you going to say that there is no validity to my statement that it would have an effect on the paint? Are you saying that if you took two Spyder markers, one operating at a low pressure and another unregulated, and shot an extremely brittle paint, that the LP marker's shot would not have a completely different outcome. I thnk it would. So far its an opinion. If I'm wrong, I want to know it. Someone prove to me that I am or am not, please.

[Lurker27]

Lemme just end it

LP allows you to shoot deeper into the tank. That's it.

...UNless we're talking about cocking rpessures which should be separate, since only *certain* companies don't include LPRs with their electros.

[Butterfingers]

Hope you know your math!
http://www.thingpaintball.ca/moreLP.shtml

Ok in theory but he completely neglects design aspects that slow the delivery of air to the ball.

ie. the tapered PT tip on Level 7 mags allows the release of higher pressures slowly to mimic the inital accelleration effects of a much lower pressure marker.

[GT]

Ok, so maybe my analysis was a little off... wouldn't surprise me. But, are you going to say that there is no validity to my statement that it would have an effect on the paint? Are you saying that if you took two Spyder markers, one operating at a low pressure and another unregulated, and shot an extremely brittle paint, that the LP marker's shot would not have a completely different outcome. I thnk it would. So far its an opinion. If I'm wrong, I want to know it. Someone prove to me that I am or am not, please.

same pressure is invovled no matter what gun, to get the ball up to 300 fps. why would one gun take more presure and one less to propel the same ball?

I think the difference you maybe seeing is the pressure used while cycling the marker. also remember that comparing a spyder w/ reg and one w/o is like comparing apples to oranges. In all honesty I think you are looking at fundemental design differences and not pressures.

[punkncat]

LP markers tend to be a bit quieter.
LP markers give better performance on CO2 , particularly in cold weather.Liquid CO2 cannot exist below a certain pressure.
LP markers "go deeper into the tank" , but this may be offset by less shots due to volume of air used.

[thingpaintball]

So, this is where all the hits are comming from. Yes it's my article (and my webpage). Please keep in mind it's over simplified to prove a point.

Another article that just went up: http://www.thingpaintball.ca/LowPressureRevisited.shtml has some better math then the first.

[FSU_Paintball]

Some people are so quick to bust on something that their markers don't do.

Others are equally quick to herald and embellish on qualities that their markers do have.


Low pressure operation is beneficial for sure, and when properly set up, is superior to HP operation in nearly every way. It can be easier on your gun's working parts, can make the gun more "smooth" when it fires, you can shoot lower through a tank. However, it certainly doesn't do everything that some people say it does. LP does not necessarily equal efficiency, for instance.

What I'm trying to say is that I think some people might need to realize... LP isn't a bad thing. It's a very good thing. But it's not a magical thing like some people would have you believe, either. But bashing LP and thinking of it as a fad or something that doesn't do jack for you isn't right, either.

[GT]

[QUOTE=FSU_Paintball] is superior to HP operation in nearly every way. [QUOTE]

I disagree completely. read some of tom's post regurading future guns and there use of pressure. I think you will find that HP is the wave of the future, problem is the industry has brain washed everyone into thinking that LP operation is where its at.


I'm sorry but you guys are going to have to prove to me that Lp is better than hp. comparing 2 different guns is the completly wrong way to compare the two.

[Butterfingers]

Agreed. Nearly every pnumatic and hydraulic industry besides paintball has made switch to HP based on the ability to pack a more dense energy souce into a smaller package this allows for smaller parts and since energy is so dense faster action and greater capacity.

If HP were so damaging on parts why are automags and tippmanns the most maintainence free guns on the market. While the most popular low pressure guns require special lube just to prevent them from leaking. It has much more to do with the design of the gun rather than the operationg pressure used.

Smoothness is firing is related to bolt speed and reciprocating mass another aspect of gun design that can be varied regardless of operating pressure.

The only thing that LP provides that is advantageous is being able to shoot deeper into your tank.