Check out the Nerve hype

[xXHavokXx]

Ok so the nerve is an impulse (viking, angel, cyborg, bushy,diadem, the one) platform with an oring in the breech and an LPR for 1200......



single eye or double eye?

[Lohman446]

Could be worse. Could be hype saying CO2 is better than HPA at one point, and then later saying HPA is better. I bet probably only 10 people in this entire forum can name the company who hyped that up.

PPS - Craig Palmer to be exact if I recall. But he did so with some strong stipulations, such as the words under ideal conditions and involving setups that would cost as much as an HPA tank. He may have been right under his perfect condition theory, but not in the real world.

[yakitori]

Don't misunderstnad the ad for the SFT feature. It is designed to eliminate blowback, which will theoretically help your consistency (otherwise known as accuracy). This assumes that, when you loose presure around the bolt, you loose it at spontanious rates. I tend to agree.
but the problem is, any gun with an o-ring on the bolt does this. Whether or not it actualy makes a difference is yet to be proven, but it probably doesn't in all practicality.

consistency = precision not accuracy. Look up the def. accuracy is how close you are to the target. Precision is how many of your shots are in a close grouping around the target. This is what consistency is.....not accuracy. Consistency and accuracy are different.

anyway, SP is dumb IMO. I wouldnt buy any of thier markers after my emag. .
its just marketing. blah blah SFT blah blah we will sue you blah blah blah.....thats what it sounds like when I hear it.

[SpecialBlend2786]

mmm, I think it looks pretty cool. A bit pricy though imo.

I'd buy it if it was $700-800 maybe.

[DiRTyBuNNy]

so...any update on the SP vs. WDP lawsuit?

[Meph]

PPS - Craig Palmer to be exact if I recall.

Well close, his CO2 betterness involves anti-siphon, his regulators, and so forth. Rather the company I'm thinking of just stated it's better without a special setup.


More like AGD would be the company hyping up 12gram use while knocking at HPA. Nice hype, eh?

[FallNAngel]

Figure if they did "swap designs" then at least the 03shocker could be nicer for maintanence. Matrix I can rip apart nicely. 03shocker has an entire process that has to be followed, real pain. First pull stuff out, then push it out from the breech, then pull the rest out. They better get some "fuse" bolt technology built in next dag nabbit.

Actually, that's how you're supposed to remove the Matrix bolt... Take the back plate off, then the bolt plug, then press on the front of the bolt to push it out the back.

And for those that seem to only have heard of the SFT but don't know what it is (many in this thread even). It is an o-ring yes. But "moving" no. It's a groove before the barrel where an O-ring rests. The bolt goes through, fires, and returns. So it's not an o-ring on the bolt like say..... the Tippmann front bolt. Rather a stationary o-ring. So it's not moving.

Technically, I think it would be considered a moving o-ring. The o-ring itself doesn't move, but the bolt moves through it, so it still takes wear. I could be wrong though.

[magmonkey]

"More like AGD would be the company hyping up 12gram use while knocking at HPA. Nice hype, eh?"

the six pack was a device pretty much specificly designed to make itself obsolete.

if i recall correctlyeverybody was fighting to keep only 12 grams and not go "callifornia style"

but the six pack made using 12 grams almost as fast as using a constant air setup

making it almost a pointless fight to keep from going to a CA setup

I don't belive it was hype, I do belive it was a roundabout way to get a gas system that would work effectivly with the automag

[GotMag?]

Does anyone know why it costs $1200?

because with the advent of the dm4 and alias people are now thinking that a good gun costs over $1000 dollars, i mean think about it, you just spent $1500 on something that shoots paintballs, thats all it does

[FallNAngel]

i mean think about it, you just spent $1500 on something that shoots paintballs, thats all it does

LIES!!

Some markers can tell me the temperature too

[Meph]

No magmonkey, the advertisements were talking about how 12grams were MORE CONSISTENT than HPA. Not about the amount of air supply, but the performance of the 12grams was superior to that of fluxuating HPA use.

[jStatbfg]

Yeah, I know this has already been pointed out, but I don't see why anyone should buy into the whole Seal-Forward Technology(sic) when every marker out there uses this same "technology". That's what the frickin' bolt does! It seals off the chamber from the vertical feed to eliminate blowback and to make sure air does not go anywhere other than it is intended to. So how, exactly is this new? Yeah the Shocker is pretty accurate, but so am I at the toilet bowl.
Look, I've used the Shocker and it IS a fine marker, but this is all hyperbole, plain and simple.