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  • ZapTheMad
    The local MADMAN!
    • Jan 2004
    • 709

    #31
    If it blew the LP disk, then your reg seat is probly messed up. The LP disk is just a CO2 disk.




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    • GotMag?
      Tom Kaye is my hero.
      • May 2004
      • 258

      #32
      so how do i check my reg seat? is it an expensive part? can i just take the burst disk from my c02 tank as a replacement? Wow, that was like 20 questions p-ball style
      MY gun, all 15 and 3/4 inches of it:
      Gun:Powerfeed Left Classic
      Barrel: 12'' Freak (I know, I know) or 10" stock RT PRO
      Hopper:12vlt X-Board Revvy

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      • SlartyBartFast
        The Flying Scotsman
        • Jun 2002
        • 2940

        #33
        Originally posted by Butterfingers
        all my hardware is capable of handling 3000 psi I didnt think too much of it.
        Really? All your fittings, elbows, tubes, and connectors are rated at 3000psi working pressure?

        I think some people would be shocked to learn what the pressure ratings for many of the fittings are.

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        • Beemer
          I could tell you but then.

          • Oct 2003
          • 3250

          #34
          what people dont know

          This is the second time I heard bad things will happen if the reg fails and the gun takes a big hit
          Astm standards says the gun should be rated at 3000psi. Ha what about 4500 psi?

          See my thread "only with AGD" Gotta love the FlatLine and Mag valve, Dam straight.

          Fittings and rateings[what a joke]

          Just use those swivel fittings and plastic line, youll be fine[NOT]

          Wait till you try and take the reg off and it breaks or is damaged[threads] or other wise because it was over torqued with locktite. will it be SAFE to put back on??????????

          So what will fry if your fancy DM4 or Alias takes a 1800 or more hit.


          Originally Posted by Butterfingers
          all my hardware is capable of handling 3000 psi I didnt think too much of it.
          Ya mine to

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          • Muzikman
            Everything AGD
            • Dec 2000
            • 6229

            #35
            Originally posted by Blazestorm
            Every single field around here has us hold the whips incase it pops off, which has happened.

            Have them get a shorter line or afix it to the table or wall ASAP!!!!! I can not stress this enough. A fill line if it should pop, or the fitting explode (which I have seen happen) will cause some serious injury if you are holding it.

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            • GotMag?
              Tom Kaye is my hero.
              • May 2004
              • 258

              #36
              so, if my LP disk blew at about 3200 (3k tank) then my reg seat is jacked? will crossfire send me one? how much to buy one? how do i check it? can someone please answer my question


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              MY gun, all 15 and 3/4 inches of it:
              Gun:Powerfeed Left Classic
              Barrel: 12'' Freak (I know, I know) or 10" stock RT PRO
              Hopper:12vlt X-Board Revvy

              ()()
              ('.')--------He's a PIMP
              *()()

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              • SlartyBartFast
                The Flying Scotsman
                • Jun 2002
                • 2940

                #37
                Originally posted by GotMag?
                so, if my LP disk blew at about 3200 (3k tank) then my reg seat is jacked? will crossfire send me one? how much to buy one? how do i check it? can someone please answer my question
                How about calling Crossfire and getting the straight answer?

                It'll certainly be more reliable than random opinions and secondhand information from the net.

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                • Butterfingers
                  PhD in Automagology
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 2263

                  #38
                  Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
                  Really? All your fittings, elbows, tubes, and connectors are rated at 3000psi working pressure?

                  I think some people would be shocked to learn what the pressure ratings for many of the fittings are.
                  Yes...

                  All My elbows are STEEL hydraulic elbows rated at 6,000 psi plus. There is only one tube going from my tank to my gun Parker Swaged Hydrualic line assembly Rated at 5,000 psi.
                  Did you hear about the new european weapons contracts? France is going to make the wooden sticks Spain making the little white flags

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                  • TheTramp
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 4019

                    #39
                    Originally posted by GotMag?
                    so, if my LP disk blew at about 3200 (3k tank) then my reg seat is jacked? will crossfire send me one? how much to buy one? how do i check it? can someone please answer my question

                    I'd say that the burst disc probably saved your reg seat (that's sort of the whole point of have a burst disc, to save the bottle/reg from carastrophic faliure). Of course Slarty is probably right and you should ask Crossfire when you order a new burst disc from them.



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                    • SlartyBartFast
                      The Flying Scotsman
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 2940

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Butterfingers
                      Yes...

                      All My elbows are STEEL hydraulic elbows rated at 6,000 psi plus. There is only one tube going from my tank to my gun Parker Swaged Hydrualic line assembly Rated at 5,000 psi.
                      Thanks for editing your response.

                      I didn't mean to be critical of you. I just thought the fact needed to be brought to the attention of the great masses. The oft repeated "A mag can handle 3000 psi" is useless for the ignorant who are using macroline to connect their air supply to the marker.

                      I'm glad that some know what they're doing, but frightened by the much larger number that really don't have a clue.

                      Perhaps you could provide a link/details/pictures of your setup and where to get the supplies?

                      Sooner or later someone's going to have to regulate PB fittings, tubes, and lines.
                      Last edited by SlartyBartFast; 07-15-2004, 10:39 AM.

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                      • SlartyBartFast
                        The Flying Scotsman
                        • Jun 2002
                        • 2940

                        #41
                        If you REALLY want to be safe:
                        http://www.parker.com/ICD/CAT/ENGLISH/4234.PDF

                        Compression tube fittings good to 15,000 psi!

                        And those are their MEDIUM pressure fittings!

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                        • hitech
                          Not a shedder of vortices
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 4775

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Butterfingers
                          All My elbows are STEEL hydraulic elbows rated at 6,000 psi plus.
                          Where can I get some of those.


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                          • Beemer
                            I could tell you but then.

                            • Oct 2003
                            • 3250

                            #43
                            SO True

                            A mag can handle 3000 psi" is useless for the ignorant who are using macroline to connect their air supply to the marker.
                            EXACTLY........Plastic line AND cheap fittings.[where can I get some of those swivel ones?]NOT

                            I'm glad that some know what they're doing, but frightened by the much larger number that really don't have a clue.
                            Sooner or later someone's going to have to regulate PB fittings, tubes, and lines.
                            Ya me to. To bad it will be later when its to late.

                            Uneducated Uninformed PB Player = BAD THINGS will happen and will be a down fall for PB.

                            Maybe a safety Thread...Whos Gun is setup the SAFEST.

                            Peace Out
                            Beemer

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                            • Butterfingers
                              PhD in Automagology
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 2263

                              #44
                              I got most of the fittings from a local hydraulic supply place. I think it was called S&S hydraulic.

                              You can probably get the same at grainger or northern hydrualic.

                              1/8 NPT is almost impossible to find you will most likely have to get that specially made.

                              Search your local yellow pages there are many local businesses willing to supply you with what you need.

                              Slarty I edited it because i realized I was in a bad mood and grumpy people dont make for good conversation. Incase you guys are wondering what I said I criticized him for criticizng me. I apologize If you read it before I edited it.
                              Last edited by Butterfingers; 07-15-2004, 09:23 PM.
                              Did you hear about the new european weapons contracts? France is going to make the wooden sticks Spain making the little white flags

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                              • rdb123
                                i have no ear
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 1507

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Butterfingers
                                I got most of the fittings from a local hydraulic supply place. I think it was called S&S hydraulic.

                                You can probably get the same at grainger or northern hydrualic.

                                1/8 NPT is almost impossible to find you will most likely have to get that specially made.

                                Search your local yellow pages there are many local businesses willing to supply you with what you need.

                                Slarty I edited it because i realized I was in a bad mood and grumpy people dont make for good conversation. Incase you guys are wondering what I said I criticized him for criticizng me. I apologize If you read it before I edited it.
                                Butters, could we please have pictures of your setup? Thanks.
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