ACE Board vs. Predator II! Round 1!

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  • Chris Nearchos
    Aerospace Engineer Student
    • Aug 2004
    • 1910

    #31
    so which one is better?

    So which board is better? the Predator 2, Morlock, or the MiniMorlock?
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    • ilikePB
      Craving Disaster
      • May 2004
      • 703

      #32
      Originally posted by Chris Nearchos
      So which board is better? the Predator 2, Morlock, or the MiniMorlock?
      I think the MiniMorlock and Predator 2 are almost identical, so I would say they are tied. Of course the MiniMorlock is made to fit anything and the Pred 2 is designed more for single solenoid guns(at least that's what I hear). The Morlock is just an older, bigger version of the MiniMorlock.
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      • Chris Nearchos
        Aerospace Engineer Student
        • Aug 2004
        • 1910

        #33
        which would be better for...

        i have a Emag with the x valve, eclipse body rail and a minimag body. which board would be best for it?
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        • Empyreal Rogue
          Zetsubou Billy
          • Apr 2004
          • 1103

          #34
          The board is only useful if you have the eyes installed. You know that, right?
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          • FragTek
            RPG DevilMAG Owner
            • Sep 2003
            • 2382

            #35
            Originally posted by Empyreal Rogue
            The board is only useful if you have the eyes installed. You know that, right?
            How do u figure? It gives you a large control in timing, multiple firing modes, and the fastest circuitry on the market with or w/o eyes.

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            • Chris Nearchos
              Aerospace Engineer Student
              • Aug 2004
              • 1910

              #36
              eyes

              Yea, i know that. I already have an eye installed on my gun. iam just trying to figure which is the best board that i should go with for the eye.
              Last edited by Chris Nearchos; 09-08-2004, 06:12 PM.
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              • ilikePB
                Craving Disaster
                • May 2004
                • 703

                #37
                Originally posted by Chris Nearchos
                Yea, i know that. I already have an eye installed on my gun. iam just trying which is the best board i should go with for the eye.
                Well, I know the Predator 2 boards can work with mags cause that's what the DevilMag uses...
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                • Empyreal Rogue
                  Zetsubou Billy
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 1103

                  #38
                  Originally posted by FragTek
                  It gives you a large control in timing, multiple firing modes, and the fastest circuitry on the market with or w/o eyes.
                  Would that make a difference with the E-Mag software/board, though?

                  Chris, which eye do you have installed? If it's the AGD ACE Board then you'll need new eyes.
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                  • Chris Nearchos
                    Aerospace Engineer Student
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 1910

                    #39
                    board

                    Iam not sure what the eye is but it is not the ace eye. the eye was installed by my local shop.

                    has anyone tried a MiniMorlock board with a emag/ xmag? if so how did it workout for you?
                    Last edited by Chris Nearchos; 09-09-2004, 05:23 AM.
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                    • ilikePB
                      Craving Disaster
                      • May 2004
                      • 703

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Chris Nearchos
                      has anyone tried a MiniMorlock board with a emag/ xmag? if so how did it workout for you?
                      It should work just as good as the Predator 2 board in the DevilMag does, as long as it is programmed correctly. If I understand correctly, the MiniMorlock and the Predator 2 board are both made by the same company. If that's the case, then you could understand why they would perform so similar.
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                      • FragTek
                        RPG DevilMAG Owner
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 2382

                        #41
                        The Predator II is made by TAG Sportz, the Morlock series is made by KM2.

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                        • Chris Nearchos
                          Aerospace Engineer Student
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 1910

                          #42
                          MiniMorlock board

                          So..... let me get this straight, both boards are basicly alike? the only real reason for making the MiniMorlock is because of its size? but the program of the boards are the same?
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                          • FragTek
                            RPG DevilMAG Owner
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 2382

                            #43
                            Programming is different between the Predator II and Morlock. The MiniMorlock is just a space saver.

                            Plus the Predator II samples the trigger asynchronously which means fast fast fast. Only board that does this.

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                            • ilikePB
                              Craving Disaster
                              • May 2004
                              • 703

                              #44
                              Originally posted by FragTek
                              The Predator II is made by TAG Sportz, the Morlock series is made by KM2.
                              I'm almost 100% sure that the Predator 2 is made by KM2 for TAG Sportz.

                              Originally posted by Chris Nearchos
                              So..... let me get this straight, both boards are basicly alike? the only real reason for making the MiniMorlock is because of its size? but the program of the boards are the same?
                              The MiniMorlock and the Preadtor 2 are the same size. The MiniMorlock must be completely programmed to work on a gun, it's specifically made to put in any gun, so it needs more programming than most to work. Also, the MiniMorlock can work with both types of ACE, not sure about the Predator 2.
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                              • CoolHand
                                Logic Industries LLC
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 3769

                                #45
                                Originally posted by FragTek
                                . . . . . . samples the trigger asynchronously which means fast fast fast. . . . .
                                This just means that it doesn't "sample" the trigger at all. In essence, its always listening for the switch to make contact (or break contact). If you link this voltage to a flag (high on, or low on, either one) in the software, when the switch breaks the circuit, the flag changes state, and the fire cycle is started. You'd need a good debounce circuit to make sure that you don't pick up a bunch of switch bounce though. Therein lies the "fast, fast, fast" .

                                If switching trigger sample rates (or styles) magically increases your ROF, you need to increase your debounce setting.

                                The old Morlocks worked like this too, someone's just invented a new buzz word to describe it (not that the way they check the switch is bad, mind you).

                                I personally think the Pred II is the best bang for the buck (for a single 'noid marker that is) out there right now.

                                I just find it amusing to see people comparing it to its nearly identical twin brother, and actually saying that one or the other is better. Basically, the only difference between the Pred II, and the Mini Morlock is the firmware on the ROM (and even that is (or will be) very similar in function).

                                As always, I could be totally full of crap though.
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                                Logic Industries LLC

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