Assault at Cali. paintball field, "Aftershock" player arrested

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  • thecavemankevin
    the living un-banned
    • Feb 2001
    • 4346

    #31
    Originally posted by d00d13
    It sounds too caveman to just walk up to a fight and bash one of them with an object.

    what'd you say bout me? Im'a kill you mofo!!! watch out, i have a nice old steal 47ci and comin after you!
    :)

    seems to me that too many players nowa days just don't have the maturity to handle highly competetive environments and loose gracefully.


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    • Pickle
      Carrier of the big stick!
      • Apr 2004
      • 476

      #32
      Originally posted by mrhooie
      Well, it's nice to see that I'm the only guy thinking there's got to be another side to this story (or the whole version)

      If I'm wrong, I'll admit it. But I get sick and tired of the "internet gang rapes" i see happening all the time
      As someone who is familiar with California criminal law I will tell you that if he was arrested he screwed up. Sure he may have had the best intentions but if he was arrested and booked he screwed up. To me the arrest is the second half of the story.

      As far as the "internet gang rapes"...I agree. My comment was on "pro" players in general.
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      • Pickle
        Carrier of the big stick!
        • Apr 2004
        • 476

        #33
        Originally posted by thecavemankevin
        seems to me that too many players nowa days just don't have the maturity to handle highly competetive environments and loose gracefully.
        When you win, say nothing.

        When you loose, say less.
        "Don't hit at all if you can help it; don't hit a man if you can possibly avoid it; but if you do hit him, put him to sleep."
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        • tony3
          LOOKING FOR AN ASIAN GF!!!
          • Feb 2003
          • 3740

          #34
          Originally posted by Pickle
          I will go one further and predict praise for his actions from players. [cough]pbnation[/cough]
          Are you stupid? Maybe you shouldn't judge people before you see what they have to say about it? Their is a thread in paintball news on pbn and see what they have to say about it. About 2 people stuck up for him, and about 100 or so said he was an idiot.

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          • mrhooie
            paintball enthusiast
            • Sep 2001
            • 517

            #35
            Originally posted by Pickle
            As someone who is familiar with California criminal law I will tell you that if he was arrested he screwed up. Sure he may have had the best intentions but if he was arrested and booked he screwed up. To me the arrest is the second half of the story.

            As far as the "internet gang rapes"...I agree. My comment was on "pro" players in general.

            arrests and convictions are two different things


            like i said, if I'm wrong, I'll gladly appologize. and thans for recognizing my last comment :)

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            • JrnyFan1985
              Vice President Of Doink.tk
              • May 2004
              • 176

              #36
              this article was too sketchy to really give the circumstances of what went on. all it said was their was "shoving", maybe there was some other factors involved. Anyway, I actually like Fish for doing this. Who knows maybe he stood up for a kid who was getting punked by second player? For all you people who thinks he shouldn't get a "slap on the wrist", do you even know what that is? It's a lot worse than what most people think. It's not just a $50 fine and an apology from the court: It's 200 hours community service (you gotta serve within six months on top of your other job), $1000 fine, 5 years probation, and a 3 month suspended sentence (meaning if you screw up at all with the law within those 5 years, they have a right to toss your *** in the can). Sorry, but I just wanted to make that clear.
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              • fire1811
                Firefighter
                • Nov 2002
                • 4930

                #37
                they maybe people should think before hitting other people in the head with paintball tanks?????
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                • JrnyFan1985
                  Vice President Of Doink.tk
                  • May 2004
                  • 176

                  #38
                  no, just don't pass judgement on a guy just because you read a 3 paragraph article at flagpull.
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                  • Steelrat
                    I meant to...uh, nevermind
                    • May 2003
                    • 5375

                    #39
                    Originally posted by JrnyFan1985
                    this article was too sketchy to really give the circumstances of what went on. all it said was their was "shoving", maybe there was some other factors involved. Anyway, I actually like Fish for doing this. Who knows maybe he stood up for a kid who was getting punked by second player? For all you people who thinks he shouldn't get a "slap on the wrist", do you even know what that is? It's a lot worse than what most people think. It's not just a $50 fine and an apology from the court: It's 200 hours community service (you gotta serve within six months on top of your other job), $1000 fine, 5 years probation, and a 3 month suspended sentence (meaning if you screw up at all with the law within those 5 years, they have a right to toss your *** in the can). Sorry, but I just wanted to make that clear.
                    Standing up for a kid being punked means grabbing the other kid, getting between them, etc. It does NOT mean hitting someone in the head with your air tank.


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                    • fire1811
                      Firefighter
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 4930

                      #40
                      Originally posted by JrnyFan1985
                      no, just don't pass judgement on a guy just because you read a 3 paragraph article at flagpull.
                      theres a difference if he would have stepped in and threw a few punches, ok fine. tank to the back of the peanut....nah no way
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                      • JrnyFan1985
                        Vice President Of Doink.tk
                        • May 2004
                        • 176

                        #41
                        Originally posted by fire1811
                        theres a difference if he would have stepped in and threw a few punches, ok fine. tank to the back of the peanut....nah no way
                        sure it stopped the altercation pretty quickly though didn't it? Probably also did less harm than throwing those punches too.
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                        • JrnyFan1985
                          Vice President Of Doink.tk
                          • May 2004
                          • 176

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Steelrat
                          Standing up for a kid being punked means grabbing the other kid, getting between them, etc. It does NOT mean hitting someone in the head with your air tank.
                          could he have been provoked? we just don't know because the article was just a speculative article. I haven't checked, but I don't think that flagpull released an update to this story either. So until then, don't condemn the guy just because you have a really sketchy article about a fight.
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                          • fire1811
                            Firefighter
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 4930

                            #43
                            so say your fighting player A over.....doesnt matter, your having words with player A and he pushes you, you push back player A's buddy comes up behind you, smokes you with a tanks, your cool with this right because player A's buddy didnt have all the facts yet and it ended the fighting quickly?
                            Last edited by fire1811; 08-13-2004, 04:14 PM.
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                            • JrnyFan1985
                              Vice President Of Doink.tk
                              • May 2004
                              • 176

                              #44
                              haha, see exactly my point: was player "A" his buddy? was player "B" his buddy? did A shove or hit "Fish"? The article doesn't say. The article paints a really bad picture over a situation that maybe was completely different than originally put.
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                              • fire1811
                                Firefighter
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 4930

                                #45
                                all im saying is there is no way that a tank to the head was justifiable.
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