Assault at Cali. paintball field, "Aftershock" player arrested

[AclowN]

Another possibility of the "slap on the wrist" is him being banned from playing/associating with the sport for a determined amount of time (usually the entire probationary period in other circumstances and different crimes). that would do alot more to him than some jail time i bet, being free to do everything except what you love (just assuming he loves the game being a pro at it and all). in any case what so ever, violent action was not the course to take, it is a misrepresentation of the sport when something like that hits the headlines, and thus bad for all of paintball. you want a sport you can fight in and not get in trouble...... play Hockey :)

So is that considerd assualt with a weapon ?

Would be in WI if the tank had been a brick.

by law, ANY object used in a violent manner intended to do serious injury or bodily harm or possible death is considered a weapon...

a paintball marker, if used with intent to cause serious injury (EXAMPLE: shooting frozen paintballs at someone, or shooting at someone off a field without a mask on, or bashing them with your tank in the back of the head.) changes a device used in a game into a potentially lethal weapon, and in these cases can be considered assault. take a bowling ball and hit someone with it at a bowling alley, you just attacked someone with a deadly weapon, try and hit someone with a car, a deadly weapon... its all circumstantial depending on how an object is used.

[hAppy]

Standing up for a kid being punked means grabbing the other kid, getting between them, etc. It does NOT mean hitting someone in the head with your air tank.

Agreed. If you are going to "rescue" a kid who is being ONLY shoved, than you should just step in between, rather than come from behind a crack them in the head. It is just uncalled for.

[brianlojeck]

sure it stopped the altercation pretty quickly though didn't it? Probably also did less harm than throwing those punches too.

Have you ever actually hit sombody?

I'm a big dude. 6'6" tall, over 300 lbs, I can bench press over 225 without even exercising. I've studied Muay Thai kickboxing. Even I couldn't cause as much damage with a few punches as my wife could do with an air tank from behind.

That's a serious one-shot-one-kill situation if you swing hard enough, and hit in the right place. (or maybe that's the WRONG place)

[LeatherPants]

Well I talked to one of the guys from Organized Crime Pro.(still debating if I want to join them)

Anyways. It was Sean from OC Rookie that was hit by Fish. He's some 16-17 yr old kid still a minor.

Apparently Sean and some other player both hit the snake and shot each other out. The usual "who shot who first" argument happend. Pushing did start.

Fish was not even on the Field and came in and hit Sean in the head. From what I was told it was baseball bat style to the forehead. He was bleeding pretty bad but I forgot to ask if he was sent to the hospital.

Now I don't care who started what but you don't club someone on the field. You push them apart or maybe tackle one to the ground.

I agree with Brianlojek. I'm 5'8" 155 lbs can bench over 315 lbs and take Tae Kwon Do. A tank to the head will do way more damage then I could.

If I was Sean's parents not only would i go after the guy for money I'd have a restraining order placed to not let him set foot on any field for a year or two.

[Richter]

Maybe he has been playing too much Halo (Xbox game).

aftershock=hoodlums

One of the videos i own has a guy from aftershock talking about how he got out of jail just in the nick of time to play world cup.

don't they have salm on thier team?

just my opinion though

[tony3]

Yeah Salm plays for aftershock, so does kenny klamper, the guy that got tackled by some refs in a game against dynasty a year or 2 ago.

[SpecialBlend2786]

Trying to break up a fight would be one thing. Trying to kill a guy with a tank is ......well not very smart. There might be more to the story, but it sounds like he elevated the fight and will hopefully be punished for it. It does not sound like self-defense when a guy gets hit in the back of the head.

Agreed

[1stdeadeye]

You can not defend hitting someone from behind. Although if Salm were to break it up, he would have had to run into the woods first!

[spacedtedybear]

Lets see; Aggrevated assault with a deadly weapon against a minor. Yeah that's grounds for jail time under any and all circumstances. If he doesn't get banned from tourneys, it only goes to show that paintball isn't a legitimized sport yet.

[davidnj]

While I agree that finding out what exactly happened would be good, I can say with 99.9999% confidence that a shot to the head with a tank (be it front, back, side) is always uncalled for.

The internet is full of great information but searching for 'fish' doesnt get me too far here so does anybody know his real name? With that it's usually pretty easy to find a report of the incident.

[Ratzo]

You can not defend hitting someone from behind. Although if Salm were to break it up, he would have had to run into the woods first!

LOL!

The tank to the head was way out of line.

[Tyger]

does anybody know his real name? With that it's usually pretty easy to find a report of the incident.

http://nxlpaintball.com/Team-Page-Chicago.html is the Aftershock roster, the official one anyway. I don't know more than that.

-Tyger

[Paladin]

IF it went down as described and he ends up in the right attitude adjustment facility, internet gang rape may not be his greatest worry.

[Pickle]

Are you stupid? Maybe you shouldn't judge people before you see what they have to say about it? Their is a thread in paintball news on pbn and see what they have to say about it. About 2 people stuck up for him, and about 100 or so said he was an idiot.

Wow relax. I didn't mean to offend you and your "peeps"

However, don't ask why I was there, I don't know myself. But, I thought this was funny. Well not funny , but funny . Well not funny , but funny . I could be wrong but I believe one team was involved in both incidents.

Link to pretty confusing and inconsequential thread, actually

[PaintballSmurf13]

Cali field...sounds about right. I ref at a field here and play at an extremely competative field sometimes (Extreme in Modesto, CA- owned by Rich Telford) , so i'm not surprised.
-Ryan