Watching Paintball Sucks, and is BORING.

[M-a-s-sDriver]

I just got through watching the Derder 300 fps and Pan Am Vegas...What a bore.
It's really no wonder paintball will never be a succesful TV enterprise.
Also, watching paintball from the sidelines live is equally boring unless there is something personal at stake, like watching a buddy win, or a hated enemy lose. This is a compilation of all the BEST footage from a tourny, yet it's all the same crap: Bunkering, yelling, gun throwing, cheating...over and over.
I realized about 3 months ago why a dislike playing paintball now. Because the fields are all the same basic design, with the same basic tactics to win, there is NO drama from game to game, no heroic moves, and inspirational play. None.
Every game I am in or watch has the same componants, namely: Roll guns on the break, back guys shoot the lanes, grab the 50's, insert the tapes, get the lucky shots, 3 or 4 on 1 bunker the last guy out, complain about the 1 for 1, shout out what a badda22 you are.

That's it.
The team that does that the best wins.
I would LOVE to see some assymetrical fields, weak sides, layouts with an obvious advantage for defense on one side and offense on the other...stuff like that.
Apparently, the day of inspired play and inventive tactics are long gone. That's why I play a lot of pump anymore. If you play against other good players it is FAR more exciting, and you have to play a more intelligent game to survive.
Paintball is a game that is ONLY interesting playing, not watching, and then only if there is some variety interjected during play.
Paintball is definatly NOT a spectator sport.
Brent.

[ntn4502]

I personaly like watching paintball(ofcourse not as much as playing).

You say its boring watching the same thing over and over...what the hell man, thats all profesional sports, watch Sportscenter, I have never witnessed a baseball highlight of a man stealing second only to be attacked by a polar bear. Give me a break.

[StormSurge]

RIGHT ON!

rant on:

I am personaly SICK of *NO CUSSING* SUP'AIR tourneys and the whole world championship in general. Everyone is shooting gun that put out no less than 10 bps. Everyone is carrying atleast 2000 paintballs on their back. Everyone is using the same frigging tactics. I am sick of watching them spray their googles with crap that makes mask hit look like splatter hits. I am sick of players having 18/20 inch barrels so they can bend the obsticles around their gun like bending a ballon. I am sick of just watching all the players wipe like it's their job.

rant off:

I still long for the days when woods ball tourneys were "popular". I long for the times when players would do things like having bleed valves in their gun so they could trick players into thinking their gun was having problems. I do so miss the game I knew when I was growing up...

[ZSigErik]

I personaly like watching paintball(ofcourse not as much as playing).

You say its boring watching the same thing over and over...what the hell man, thats all profesional sports, watch Sportscenter, I have never witnessed a baseball highlight of a man stealing second only to be attacked by a polar bear. Give me a break.

Good point, thats exactly what I was thinking. Its the same watching football or other sports. You wait for that one play that one moment where something spectacular happens and it makes you want to watch more.

Humans naturally gauge thier interest in something based on "check points". We go from rush to rush, and pending on how few or far between they are is where our interest may lay. Just something interesting Ive observed.

[Adrenaline_Junkie]

Storm and Driver, if ya dont like it then dont watch it. No one cares about the fact that you dont like watching it. Its no different than watching any other sport. You say all the fields are the same, PAINTBALL HAS THE WIDEST VARIETY O PLAYING FIELDS BESIDES MAYBE GOLF! All that being said dont watch it if ya dont like it or SHUT UP! Your reasoning behind your hating watching paintball is totally pointless and full of BS. Both of you have been added to THE LIST



I know leave with a friendly reminder, KEEP IT TO YOURSELF!

Flame Away You Paintball Hating Wierdos!

[StormSurge]

Adrenaline Junkie, your comments are pointless frigging stupid. I am glad I have been added to "the list" as if it really matters. Paintball has become homogenious and if you cant see it, your just frigging BLIND!

[tony3]

I just got through watching the Derder 300 fps and Pan Am Vegas...What a bore.
It's really no wonder paintball will never be a succesful TV enterprise.
Also, watching paintball from the sidelines live is equally boring unless there is something personal at stake, like watching a buddy win, or a hated enemy lose. This is a compilation of all the BEST footage from a tourny, yet it's all the same crap: Bunkering, yelling, gun throwing, cheating...over and over.
I realized about 3 months ago why a dislike playing paintball now. Because the fields are all the same basic design, with the same basic tactics to win, there is NO drama from game to game, no heroic moves, and inspirational play. None.
Every game I am in or watch has the same componants, namely: Roll guns on the break, back guys shoot the lanes, grab the 50's, insert the tapes, get the lucky shots, 3 or 4 on 1 bunker the last guy out, complain about the 1 for 1, shout out what a badda22 you are.
That's it.
The team that does that the best wins.
I would LOVE to see some assymetrical fields, weak sides, layouts with an obvious advantage for defense on one side and offense on the other...stuff like that.
Apparently, the day of inspired play and inventive tactics are long gone. That's why I play a lot of pump anymore. If you play against other good players it is FAR more exciting, and you have to play a more intelligent game to survive.
Paintball is a game that is ONLY interesting playing, not watching, and then only if there is some variety interjected during play.
Paintball is definatly NOT a spectator sport.
Brent.

Wow, where to start. You claim paintball is the same over and over. What about ALL sports. If one team in basketball works the ball good, and passes good, gets open shots and makes it they win. If they can get rebounds, close the lane, and defend outside shooters they win. It is simple. I have seen heroic moves in paintball. I saw a trauma player take 4 All americans out in a game in chicago.

How about in basketball one side of the court has a longer 3 point line then the other to make it more of a challenge. Or how about we deflate the ball for one football team whenever they get possesion. To make it more strategic on defense. GIVE ME A BREAK! You are telling me its fun to watch soccer? It is personal preference of what interests you. I'd watch an xball match over any other sport. Some people think baseball is boring as hell. Personally, being the big baseball player/fan I am, I love watching it.

You make some of the most general arguements I've ever seen that can be brought into any sport. If you do this, that, this, that is a sport you will win, it is the same in all sports. Between soccer, hockey, and Lacrosse(sp?), I could take a few naps during the games and watch some leaves blow in the wind between games and be more entertained. IT IS ALL ABOUT WHAT YOU LIKE TO WATCH.

[Gabriel]

I just got through watching the Derder 300 fps and Pan Am Vegas...What a bore.
It's really no wonder paintball will never be a succesful TV enterprise.
Also, watching paintball from the sidelines live is equally boring unless there is something personal at stake, like watching a buddy win, or a hated enemy lose. This is a compilation of all the BEST footage from a tourny, yet it's all the same crap: Bunkering, yelling, gun throwing, cheating...over and over.
I realized about 3 months ago why a dislike playing paintball now. Because the fields are all the same basic design, with the same basic tactics to win, there is NO drama from game to game, no heroic moves, and inspirational play. None.
Every game I am in or watch has the same componants, namely: Roll guns on the break, back guys shoot the lanes, grab the 50's, insert the tapes, get the lucky shots, 3 or 4 on 1 bunker the last guy out, complain about the 1 for 1, shout out what a badda22 you are.

That's it.
The team that does that the best wins.
I would LOVE to see some assymetrical fields, weak sides, layouts with an obvious advantage for defense on one side and offense on the other...stuff like that.
Apparently, the day of inspired play and inventive tactics are long gone. That's why I play a lot of pump anymore. If you play against other good players it is FAR more exciting, and you have to play a more intelligent game to survive.
Paintball is a game that is ONLY interesting playing, not watching, and then only if there is some variety interjected during play.
Paintball is definatly NOT a spectator sport.
Brent.

All football, baseball, and basketball games have symmetrical courts, similar tactics, and a fairly guessable strategy. What excites the crowd is when something unexpected comes, the same reason as with paintball. And once again, paintball is a much bigger GAME than it is a SPORT. So even if "pro" paintball fails, which i dont hope for but is possible, the "rec" portion (a much much much larger portion of the game if i may say) will never die. So i dont see why our game has to be a sport to make it enjoyable... but that's just me. I guess my priorities are all wrong, having fun and winning no money, or making it not as fun and winning money. Im kinda screwy like that...

Gabe

[Gabriel]

wow, tony beat me to it...

and I love the repetetive usage of the word "friggin" in your post Storm. Really an intelligent way to make your point.

Gabe

[ojhspyro89]

I just got through watching the Derder 300 fps and Pan Am Vegas...What a bore.
It's really no wonder paintball will never be a succesful TV enterprise.
Also, watching paintball from the sidelines live is equally boring unless there is something personal at stake, like watching a buddy win, or a hated enemy lose. This is a compilation of all the BEST footage from a tourny, yet it's all the same crap: Bunkering, yelling, gun throwing, cheating...over and over.
I realized about 3 months ago why a dislike playing paintball now. Because the fields are all the same basic design, with the same basic tactics to win, there is NO drama from game to game, no heroic moves, and inspirational play. None.
Every game I am in or watch has the same componants, namely: Roll guns on the break, back guys shoot the lanes, grab the 50's, insert the tapes, get the lucky shots, 3 or 4 on 1 bunker the last guy out, complain about the 1 for 1, shout out what a badda22 you are.

That's it.
The team that does that the best wins.
I would LOVE to see some assymetrical fields, weak sides, layouts with an obvious advantage for defense on one side and offense on the other...stuff like that.
Apparently, the day of inspired play and inventive tactics are long gone. That's why I play a lot of pump anymore. If you play against other good players it is FAR more exciting, and you have to play a more intelligent game to survive.
Paintball is a game that is ONLY interesting playing, not watching, and then only if there is some variety interjected during play.
Paintball is definatly NOT a spectator sport.
Brent.

Your opinion sucks.

[Adrenaline_Junkie]

Storm and Driver have been....

[slade]

i think ill refrain from taking sides in this flame war

if you dont like watching paintball tournaments, then dont. if you dont like speedball, dont play it. if you dont like woodsball, dont play it. if you dont like a certain part of the sport, then just stay away from it, you dont have to flame about it. id personally rather watch paintball than any other sport, but if you dont like watching paintball, thats fine with me. just keep quiet about it.

[StormSurge]

F! this FOURUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, I love it when people use ghetto buzz words ( you got served ) to tell me that my view on current ideas and beliefs is unpopular. Oh, by the way, I DONT CARE IF I MAY HAVE USED "FRIGGIN" TOO MANY TIMES. Way to try to invalidate my argument BY NOT ADRESSING THE "FRIGGIN" issue.

Forget this forum...

[ramennoodles]

i think the problem is not that paintball is boring and repeats itself, i think the problem is that you are watching 300 fps, which uses the same material over and over.

[personman]

i contributed to this thread

lol.