Watching Paintball Sucks, and is BORING.

[Blazestorm]

Until you play x-ball. You cannot talk about tournies at all.

I just got back (well ok 5 hours ago) from playing x-ball at Cedar (Captain of CDR, check Div 3 standings)'s personal x-ball field, it was tight as hell, was only charging us 30 bucks a case, 5 bucks to cover setting up the field and air (4500 fills at the beginning of the day, it dies off towards the end) Sold me an NXe Tank cover and Barrel condom I needed for 20 bucks. Most fun I've had in a while, especially with Cedar coaching me in a 2v1, My loader crapped out on me (Wouldn't feed AT ALL) So he handed me his freestyle and I dropped my friend's viking, managed to dodge around ninja style and shoot out the 2 guys (the last guy I shot was shooting at me, so it was kind of a tie.. but still cool) It's truly a unique experience that cannot be replicated, Nobody judged you by the gun you shot, the clothes you wore, or how you played. All they cared about was having fun and getting better at the sport they love. Nobody was cocky, nobody was an ***, everyone was very cool and was definately one of the most fun times I've had.

Don't go talking **** about tournaments when you haven't experienced the true greatness in the tourney play that real ballers enjoy. Playing at Cedars is exactly what paintball is ALL about, there is nothing greater then playing with those guys. I got shot, I shot people, people got bunkered, people bunkered, we had laughs and a great time. That's what it's all about.

[1ofkind]

We'll I've seen some pb vids and I agree. I feel they don't use the proper camera shots at all. Like when both teams break I'ed like to see a very wide shot, or a split screen of both team breaking and running to there bunkers at once. Its way to mixed up, you pretty much have no clue whats going on within all the scenes.

Right now its a low budget, independent film thing thats going on. I'm sure is steven felsberg made a NPPL vid he would capture all the drama and intensity going on if he was incharge with his multi-million dollar budget and highly expirenced crew.

[AFImonk]

I love watching Paintball. Weather its a movie or im on the sideline, its fun!

[logamus]

i find baseball to be painfully boring to watch. guess what, i dont watch it. 300fps makes some of the WORST vids on the market, but hey if watching the game bores you, if playing the game bores you, if everything about the game bores you then go find something else to fill your time.

[Blazestorm]

Everything in Paintball, should be made by players, for the players. Including videos, derder is a company made of players who decided to put their cameras and editing skills to work in a sport they enjoy playing. They wanted to produce videos that got people excited about paintball. I watch 300-fps before I'm about to go playing (Or the night before) because it gets me pumped up, people getting shot, bunkered, lit-up, off the breaks. Everything gets me pumped for the first game of the day, it carires on from there. But seriously, they did a good job on that, I enjoy continually watching it, it doesn't get old or boring even though I know what's going to happen.

People need to stop complaining about things, unless you're going to do something about it, don't *****.

I hate it when people say "Man I hate my gun, it always chops paint and everything every-time I play." Well install some ACE on there, or set your ROF cap lower, or get a faster loader. Don't just ***** about it and do nothing from there. Same goes when you're talking about cheaters. Don't ***** and say "Oh man I hate playing with those guys, they wipe and play on all the time dude, it's gay." Then tell the owner of the field and the head ref what you tend to see with a certain group of guys and tell them to watch them more closely. I played at one field a few weekends ago, I shot multiple people, watched the ball break, they rather tucked behind their bunker and wiped it, or played with it still there. In x-ball practice with Cedar, everyone called out instantly, I sniped Cedar's pack sticking out because his team didn't see me move, and literally the moment I hit his pack, his hand went up and he yelled "damnit joe... " it was funneh. But anyway, we experienced no playing on, no wiping, no cheating of any sort, because everyone are friends here, just here to play. We don't have to win to have fun.

[MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata]

I think and overhead camera could do wonders for paintball videos, and paintball on tv

[yakitori]

blah....everyone just blah. blah blah blah.

[LoveMyMagMoreThanYou]

Until you play x-ball. You cannot talk about tournies at all.

I just got back (well ok 5 hours ago) from playing x-ball at Cedar (Captain of CDR, check Div 3 standings)'s personal x-ball field, it was tight as hell, was only charging us 30 bucks a case, 5 bucks to cover setting up the field and air (4500 fills at the beginning of the day, it dies off towards the end) Sold me an NXe Tank cover and Barrel condom I needed for 20 bucks. Most fun I've had in a while, especially with Cedar coaching me in a 2v1, My loader crapped out on me (Wouldn't feed AT ALL) So he handed me his freestyle and I dropped my friend's viking, managed to dodge around ninja style and shoot out the 2 guys (the last guy I shot was shooting at me, so it was kind of a tie.. but still cool) It's truly a unique experience that cannot be replicated, Nobody judged you by the gun you shot, the clothes you wore, or how you played. All they cared about was having fun and getting better at the sport they love. Nobody was cocky, nobody was an ***, everyone was very cool and was definately one of the most fun times I've had.

Don't go talking **** about tournaments when you haven't experienced the true greatness in the tourney play that real ballers enjoy. Playing at Cedars is exactly what paintball is ALL about, there is nothing greater then playing with those guys. I got shot, I shot people, people got bunkered, people bunkered, we had laughs and a great time. That's what it's all about.

So, Where is that and when is NWAO going?

[Blazestorm]

LOL You goober... I'd have to talk to Cedar, I'm sure he'd be cool with setting up a saturday to go play.

The downside is that it's at Mount Vernon, a helluva drive, but damn well worth it. The x-ball field rocks, the paint is cheap, and the air station is tight.

I shalt talk to him sometime this week about that...

[Battlewear]

I think every one has made some good points..

I have been playing this sport for over 10 years now, still love it like the first time I tried it... Some times it drives my soul and other times not, but it is FUN..

Now I have seen a lot a video's and such and the shows on TV and that sort of thing.. Sure there are lots of problems with all of them but that is where people doing the video's learn.. I for one just did my first video, nothing great, was about 10 minutes in length of a Big game.. Sure parts of the video sucked but it was fun to watch with the music and such.. Did I learn something? Yea, things I would like to do more with the next video.. Will I be able to? I doubt it just due to cost.

The thing is, we as players may like or dislike something, either way sound out, but do it respectively. Tell the company how you feel and what suggestions you might have.. You never know when they might take a suggesion of yours and bring it into the video's.. Remember, talk to them like a professional, dont bash them or tell them they make crap, they wouldnt listen to you and either would I.. If you came to me and suggested a different camera angle for that great bunker shot or like suggest split screens for the break, you know I might just say yea and thank you for it, or even hire you to help!

The thing is, be respectefull.. If you dont like to watch them then that is cool, if you do then enjoy them. Best of all though, get out and play and have fun..

BTW, Once I have the video reedited and done up I will find some where to host it (it is currently freaking HUGE! over 77 Megs for 10 minutes!!) but has fairly good clarity and some decent classical rock tunes ( was done to a Big Game set for Viet Nam).. I would love to get some feedback once it is completed..

Thanks all.. Keep your hoppers full!

[slade]

I think all you guys that say you should keep your comments to yourself are missing the point of AO. If we all agreed 100% of the time, the majority of posts on AO would be "pics of my new mag," o'wait a sec......


I also think watching paintball is pretty dam borring, but to be honest paintball has alot more problems to address before it should ever consider wide syndication.

gt

im not saying that you shouldnt keep your opinions to yourself, im saying that we should try to avoid a flame war. weather or not you like to watch paintball or you like playing a certain style of paintball cannot be changed. i love speedball and dont like woodsball. my friend likes woodsball and doesnt like speedball as much. that most likely will not change. its personal preferance, and starting a thread saying "i HATE (insert something here)" can only lead to two sides with unrelenting opposing opinions, spewing out endless arguments and comments like:

Your opinion sucks.

and

Forget this forum...

oh, and by the way, M-a-s-sDriver, you said that you did not intend this to be a flame war. just look at the title of the thread. how could you NOT see that this would turn into a flame war?

[Skoad]

I didn't read the whole thread.


I like to watch. I watch almost every chance I get to. It's a lot better if your reffing or being a camera man. It isn't as fun just sitting there watching people play.

As far as paintball dvds go it really is a tossup. Some I like, some I don't, and some in the middle. I do like derder's work, they usually catch a nice chuckle out of me every couple minutes or so.

Pick up a video camera, go film, make your own movie. It's really fun to shoot and edit. Especially when you shoot this awesome view, or catch some awesome move.

[Konigballer]

whats the big deal about a little Flame War, what did anybody die because of it? Hopefully anyone who really lost lost their temper over a online thread and started crying can wipe the running eyeliner off their face and grow a pair .

I thought we were just debating. Anyways, maybe televised paintball is boring, but not anymore than golf and thats been accepted by mainstream television for years. Whatever floats your boat.

[Miscue]

I think it's boring to watch too unless - the teams are really good and/or I know who is playing.

[FreakBaller12]

Well that wasn't derder's intention, they packed it with excitement, I don't think they wanted it to be like let's sit down and watch what happens, and analyze that. They packed it with excitement to make you want to go out and play. To make you not even watch the rest of the vid, grab your gear and go out and play some ball.

You're clearly looking for something that isn't offered(i dont know of any) a video that analyzes game by game move by move. This would be a wise move to move into video editing and do just this. I think alot of people here on AO would enjoy that. It'd be cool to see the pro's technique's and just bunkering. But also seeing bunkering off the breaks and such are always fun to get your adrenaline pumping. Although this type of video wouldn't sell as much (IMO) there would still be a market for it.