2005 Autococker(tm)

[Jackel411]

And nobody thought the buy out would change WGP all I have to say is... HA!!! " The cheapening of the cocker "

[Koosh]

I cannot WAIT until cockers drop in price more... I've been looking to pick up a project, and hell, I bet now I could get a 99 RF cocker for under $100 when these come out

[mobius]

I remember when K2 bought out Pro Flex mountain bikes. Pro Flex was a very high end company that only produced dual suspension mountain bikes in the $600-$2500 price range. I was working as a bike tech at the time, and I had first hand experience with the sudden and rapid downward spiral of changes that were made, all in the name of "progress." Now you can buy mass produced K2 bikes (they scrapped the Pro Flex name after about 2 years) at Wal Mart and Sports Authority for $200. Very few high end bike shops carry their products these days because they are seen as "low end Wal Mart bikes". This is despite the fact that their stuff in the $800 range is still decent, though there are plenty of other bike brands I would buy first.

K2 seems to be of the mentality that if they want to get into a new industry, they can buy an existing company, throw some new (non industry) marketing and development people at them, and make lots of changes that they think are for the better. Unfortunatley, this looks like what is happening with the new 2005 'Cockers.

How long until we can buy a "K2" Autococker at Wal Mart, and your local pro shop looks at you as if you walked in the door asking for the newest plastic Brass Eagle marker?

[FSU_Paintball]

The only good change is the price, and the way having no front block looks. Big thumbs down. Not upgradeable to an eblade without heavy modification? No double-trigger in the lower-end models? No adjustable LPR? No removeable 3-way? No reg in the low-end model? What are they smoking?

Anyone who says that these are "superior" to the older cockers in any way other than price and milling doesn't know what they're talking about.

[Carbon]

HAHAHAHAHAH....



so....a 2005 Mag is more upgradeable than a 2005 cocker eh?

[PBX Ronin 23]

Looks pretty cheap, too. The whole Trilogy line has Big Box Retail written all over it.

I'd imagine that there'll be a higher-end, more traditional-looking line introduced shortly after the release of this one.

Right you are Stevo! These puppioes are intended for the mass retail chains. In a lot of ways, the design follows the K.I.S.S. principle and make the gun ideal for the uninitiated. But kinda limits what you cannow do to it as far as upgrades are concerned.

[ProX9]

Lol my ap chem teacher uses the k.i.s.s. principle, keep it simple student. Some people said Wgp wouldnt pursue the aftermarket parts makers, but it looks like they dont have to now they have completely screwed them.

[SpecialBlend2786]

I like em alot.

[gc82000]

Wait a second here. They do not take Eblades. What are they thinking. Is tha tnot what brought WGP back into the tourney scene. Can someone get Bud Orr back his bearings on this sport.

[WenULiVeUdiE]

I think they're the uglies cocker of ALL time... These definately don't get my vote.

I have to agree. It looks like they tried to copy that other cocker with the integral ram and such. The front block assembly is just ugly as sin. I dont think I will ever be able to own one of these.

[wispaintstyle]

I'm done with WGP, I'm selling my cocker now. I doubt I'll want a semi for awhile.
Hey Mr. Kaye, don't freekin' sell out ok? You're the last great semi-auto.

[G-Rock]

don't know if you guys read the article, but the front block is NOT REMOVABLE.... no add on eblade...


WGP has officially sold out for the $$

it's their perogative but....

Right the front block is not removeable, but the 3-way is!!

And since all you change out is the 3-way for the new electronic 3 way, then the NON-removable front block don't mean a thing.

Lets remember that the Eclipse and Nexus cockers both had NON-removable front blocks, yet both came with eblades!

chris geiger

[teufelhunden]

Sonny, back in May, promised me I'd never see a 'Cocker in Wal-Mart.

Looks like that panned out. Well, good thing I got rid of my EBlade a few weeks ago.

[MiniSpdRcr]

Yeah but it wont be as fast, I do not think that you can fit a ram with QEV's or TRV's into that tiny little space the provided. So you CAN put an E-blade on it, but it wont be used to its potential.

Right the front block is not removeable, but the 3-way is!!

And since all you change out is the 3-way for the new electronic 3 way, then the NON-removable front block don't mean a thing.

Lets remember that the Eclipse and Nexus cockers both had NON-removable front blocks, yet both came with eblades!

chris geiger

[ZEROorDIE]

HOW CAN THEY DO THIS!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo!!!!!!!!

they just killed the cocker. its a cocker with 60% less upgradeable parts.


the higher end cockers better nothave been submitted to this B/S

hey guys look its the updated karni no fron block no grip feed stock pnues no ics but look its got cooool milling. well call it the Herbivore brand new for 2005!