wgp/k2 destroy the '05 cocker

[Chipper]

I'm not completely sure, but its not like WGP is the only company that makes cockers. Doesn't Diablo have one? Dye? Eclipse? Turtle? You could go on and on.

Unless they buy the cocker for WGP and put their stuff on it.

[shartley]

[PBX Ronin 23]

From what I understand after recently talking to a WGP executive, these puppies were intended to be for the mass merchants. There will still be the more traditional version with your normal front block.

If you look at K2's history, they've had a penchant for taking a highly respected brand name and leveraging that into shelf space with mass merchants. I don't necessarily agree with it but if it positively impact's K2's bottomline, then they'll make the rational business decision.

[Ov3rmind]

Hm, for $180 you really can't go wrong though, even if they are ugly. I actually like the way the Trilogy Pro looks though. Like other have said though, the integrated 3-way and VA was a bad idea.

[Bensongg]

I think that when they say integrated it means that the front block and asa are now a solid piece of the body. That would mean that the 3-way, ram, and lpr are all still removeable. I have yet to read where it says otherwise.

[camilion705]

Exactly.

[FooTemps]

Okay shartley(in soapbox mode),

I think that this is a good step for lowend. I bet a whole lot of members agree with me. If you read, people say comments like, "looks hideous, but for this price I can't complain." If you know K2, they have screwed up product lines by making mass market low end stuff. And if you look at the freakin picture, you can see why so many people don't like the new frontblock setup! Heaven forbid people hypothsize on the build, quality, and function based on prior knowledge and data presented.

[shatter_storm]

Cockers arn't good newbie friendly markers. Everyone knows that. Cockers have lots of pneumatics and mechanical things to break, they fall out of timing, the pressures go all whacky and in general they don't always work right.

I don't understand why they'd try to market an error-prone marker to the masses - it's not like cockers spontaneously combust, it's that people like dicking with things. Cockers arn't supposed to be messed with if you don't know what you're doing.

I dunno, to me this sounds like a business plan with good intention but nobody thought it through well enough.

[gc82000]

I think that WGP is trying to go for the newbie market now. They look simpler and not so much bunched up the way previous frontblocks used to looked.

[PBX Ronin 23]

[Enemy]

^^^^hes got all good points.. and its not like half of the people dont have their cockers timed out of house any so who cares on that part!!! personally i prefered the 03 cockers milling and complex look but these mean a better cheap market for people, who will no longer have to look away when they say their first marker was a spyder cuz that was the cooliest looking gun at the time!! i know i do, i started with spyder!! ofcoarse the trigger pull was alot better then the tippmans at the time!!!

[eightball]

everything gets nicely summed and cleared up here

http://www.wgppress.com/viewtopic.php?t=39085

i wouldn't mind have one of these trilogy things in my closet for my friends to use
still ugly and look like a son of a spyder mom and a cocker dad

[shartley]

Okay shartley(in soapbox mode),

I think that this is a good step for lowend. I bet a whole lot of members agree with me. If you read, people say comments like, "looks hideous, but for this price I can't complain." If you know K2, they have screwed up product lines by making mass market low end stuff. And if you look at the freakin picture, you can see why so many people don't like the new frontblock setup! Heaven forbid people hypothsize on the build, quality, and function based on prior knowledge and data presented.

[PBX Ronin 23]

After touring the forums, the voices of reason are beginning to sprout out as it concerns the new '05 WGP markers.

Folks, WGP should be commended for their efforts to introduce something into the entry-level market that isn't a blow-back.

All their 'normal' front-blocked guns will still be out there. A new hot one waiting in the wings, from what I understand.

My Cocker bretherens, this is a time to rejoice at the coming of three new children. This is not the time to stone them. The time to uplift them is upon us.

[minimag03]

I'm planning on picking one of them up with the single trigger frame. I might just get the cheapest one a put a good reg on it. Anyway, I think that this is a good idea. I dought WORR would put out a poor product. I heard that I can prorder them, where at?

minimag03