wgp/k2 destroy the '05 cocker

[spantol]

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[AcemanPB]

I agree with Ronin, it's a entry level marker. You can't expect the prices to go down AND performance and looks go up. I think for what it cost it seems like a very good marker, and it's great they simplified the gun to make it a little more noob friendly considering the market it's now in.

[PBX Ronin 23]

Coming from an extremely reliable source, a pretty hot "tournament" grade gun will be coming out of Corona, CA pretty soon.

Stay tuned.

[Enos Shenk]

As for "tarnishing" the cocker name, well, i dont see how since theyre calling it the "trilogy".

Now im assuming here that the 3-way body has been intergrated into the side of the vert adapter. Im also assuming that it would take an enterprising individual with a bomb 3-way shaft, a drill and some hand tools about 20 minutes to replace the 2 o-ring shaft with the bomb 3 o-ring shaft and fiddle a standard timing rod on there.

Im also assuming that it would take an enterprising soul about another 10 minutes to rip that stubby LPR off the front, tap the front for 1/8 NPT and screw on a rock reg.

I might pick up the $179 version just for the fun of seeing how far i can modify the thing before it screams for mercy.

[TheTramp]

I like the single trigger hinge frame. I wonder if it fits older cocker bodies.

[PBX Ronin 23]

At the end of the day, WGP and K2 would have created more choices in an already crowded market. But the choice that they're providing is totally different than what's already out there.

It's kind nice to start hearing people speak more positively about this.....and rightfully so.

[spectre184]

At local field I shot some kids Eclipse E-Cocker that looked/based like ones above. It ripped, well I couldn't shoot it as fast as he did since I still shoot an 68Automag

I was impressed by what I saw. As long as replacement parts are avavilible and I'm sure companies will come out with aftermarket parts too. Unless K2 sues them?

*edit* found cached link on google of ad and cached pic of gun his was different color but you get idea

[PBX Ronin 23]

I was impressed by what I saw. As long as replacement parts are avavilible and I'm sure companies will come out with aftermarket parts too. Unless K2 sues them?

Well if K2 did, they would have abandoned the business paradigm that has made WGP one of the most successful companies in the industry.

Suing anybody that comes up with an after-market upgrade to their products is like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Just doesn't make a whole lot of business sense.

[Slade xTekno]

Well if K2 did, they would have abandoned the business paradigm that has made WGP one of the most successful companies in the industry.

Suing anybody that comes up with an after-market upgrade to their products is like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Just doesn't make a whole lot of business sense.

I believe he was talking about the Eclipse Cocker. The one f/s at my proshop doesn't have a front block, either. Plus, WGP leeches everything off PE anyway. They wouldn't sue them, lu.

[angelpena]

The cocker vs. mag debate is officially over....
The new debate will be cocker vs. spyder....
and so far in the looks department I think the spyder has the upper hand....

[PBX Ronin 23]

I believe he was talking about the Eclipse Cocker. The one f/s at my proshop doesn't have a front block, either. Plus, WGP leeches everything off PE anyway. They wouldn't sue them, lu.

The arrangement that Planet Eclipse had with WGP was mutually beneficiary. Perhaps using another word than "leeches" would be a little bit more appropriate. As for the Nexus 03, there where only a handful of them made. How much is the guys selling that gun for?

The cocker vs. mag debate is officially over....
The new debate will be cocker vs. spyder....
and so far in the looks department I think the spyder has the upper hand....

Your post, no offense intended, lacks a true understanding of the way the guns work and the business decision being made. You are certainly entitled to your opinion but a little more thought instead of an over-simplification of an otherwise relevant comparison is underwhelming at best.

[Slade xTekno]

The arrangement that Planet Eclipse had with WGP was mutually beneficiary. Perhaps using another word than "leeches" would be a little bit more appropriate. As for the Nexus 03, there where only a handful of them made. How much is the guys selling that gun for?

The gun w/ EBlade is going for about $1140, lu. I guess you're right on the "leech," though. I just wish Bud Orr would come out with something he came up with himself.

I also disagree with the poster who said Autococker v. Spyder. Please wait until you shoot one until you make judgements like that. In my opinion, I think the new Trilogy's look awesome. I'd take one of those over a Spyder anyday.

[warbeak2099]

I've read this topic on several forums. I think what people need to understand is that these aren't replacing the SuperStock or the OutKast. These are really replacing the Ranger series. I think simplified entry-level cockers are a great idea. For $179 it beats any other entry-gun.

[PBX Ronin 23]

Perhaps entering this segment of the market might also be a good move for AGD. What do you think Tom?

[FutureMagOwner]

the first 2 cheap ones trigger frames looks like i could fit maybe my pinky in the trigger guard