for all you ninnies and efficency

[bokraham]

Why dosent agd make lighter bolts? They could make the the essential parts of the bolt that have alot of wear still be metal, like the base (the thing that hits the bumper). Everything else could be lightweight plastic or silk, or rubber or something. This would be good for efficency because a lighter bolt means that it would be easier to push back, so you could use a much lighter return spring, thus increasing efficency.

[Automaget]

i think that was the problem with the original superbolt because the outer coting of the bolt would alwas being breaking so they made it out of metel insted of whatever it was so they made it heavier, thats why

[Rather]

j/w was a derlin body/ metal sleve ever pondered? Would make sense wouldn't it? unless I am stupeed then it could work, no?

[bokraham]

It would exept the derlin wouln't help with lubing and such, it would make more sense if it was make out of plastic with a metal sleeve or carbon fiber.

[FooTemps]

yeah, then the core breaks and so would teh base.

[ScatterPlot]

Man there's a big ole thread about efficiency in the Workshop section, about pneumatic cylinders and resetting and all. The electrician has proven that what you are suggesting will not improve efficiency.

[personman]

The delrin super bolt 1 was not much lighter than the ss super bolt two.
I quote tom kaye:

This all stainless, never wear out version only weighs 8% more than the original SB. It weighs in at 1.16 oz and is in contention for the lightest reciprocating bolt in a paintball gun. That also means no kick!!

As you can see, the bolt is already reduced to the lightest wieght possible.
Its not going to get any lighter than this.

[Joni]

Remember that most markers has a heavy hammer to move around. Compared to that, 1.16 oz is not much. If I remember correctly, it weighs half than an upgraded impulse's bolt+hammer+ram shaft

[BlackWeenie]

Why dosent agd make lighter bolts?

why dont YOU make a lighter bolt?

[trains are bad]

I don't know how it would take the sear wear, but titanium would be the best way to make a lighter bolt, seems to me.

[magking1971]

Titanium would not last a full hopper.
And the subject of this thread is asked every other month.

[personman]

Titanium would also be expensive to machine.
AGD R&D does a pretty good job coming up with ideas and testing them out. So even if you havent heard of it before, if it seems simple, its been done. In this case it was done a few years ago, and released to the public, and failed miserably.
The LX Bolt is already pretty darned light. (lighter than any other bolt in any other marker, pretty much)

[ScatterPlot]

Why wouldn't titanium last very long? I thought it was like stronger than steel. Of course that doesn't mean anything for wear though. BTW I'm not advocating the concept, I just think a Ti bolt would last longer than you said.

[magking1971]

Titanium tends to "smear" when it rubs on something (metal) and would not do so well.
Like Personman said it is a PITA to machine so the cost would be very spendy.

[Kevmaster]

the superbolt ii...aka level 10..is the best option available to AGD and the consumer. It combines strength with light weightness better than any other possibility. it is going to do just fine. and cutting the bolt weight in half would not even make a noticable difference on the efficiency.