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  • Bonx0007
    AO SOCAL OG
    • Sep 2001
    • 1388

    #31
    Originally posted by wantamag
    rogue, stop bothering people with irrelevant questions. the mag is looking Sweet man! pretty much what i expected. cant wait til its out....hopefully soon...

    btw nice shirt

    --edit can u take "agg" out of the name ?

    I was wondering the same thing rogue was and I am glad he asked. Anyway, the new design looks close to what a mag looks like. I suppose a video will show exactly how different they really are.

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    • OysterBoy
      Fatty McChubbercookie
      • Feb 2004
      • 1409

      #32
      Remember, reading is fun.

      They used mag parts because they were readily available, instead of fabricating a new body right away. This is, as he posted (As I READ ), an Alpha Proto.

      I'm full of mixed emotions. Its great, but, may prove to be competition for the hAir trigger; people like what they are used to, so its possible E-Cocker conversions (People, not guns) may run the other way...

      Unicorns are people too ...
      Old Narhwals are people too ...
      Grizzly Bears are people too ...
      Caterpillars are people too ...
      Baby Peacocks are people too ...
      lew "My hand was a little shaky and I released too soon."

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      • Dayspring
        aka- The Day Wang

        • May 2001
        • 9664

        #33
        The question is why? You don't need the big battery any more. And since we don't need the sear assembly, you don't need the plunger assembly. A hyperframe would do well enough.

        Originally posted by Lessthanusual
        Would you be able to use a e-mag trigger frame with that mq-valve?

        Less.

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        • PBX Ronin 23
          Registered User
          • Jul 2004
          • 518

          #34
          Originally posted by Adrenaline_Junkie
          At fist loom i was like SWEET! but after reading and stuff it said it doesnt use a mag valve and pretty much anything else that makes a mag a mag beside the body and rail. Its a sweet idea but its just not a mag.
          You're right. I'm not even sure whether we should call it an "upgrade" or a "modification" (I'm open to any other suggestions). My thoughts are that it may be an impetus to many younger players out there to start off with a Mag because of this mechanical attributes and have an electronic option for them to look forward to in the future.
          /s/ Mel C. Maravilla
          PBX Battlezone
          PBX Paintball Station Inc.
          PBX Ballistix Lab
          PBX@NYC Paintball

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          • PBX Ronin 23
            Registered User
            • Jul 2004
            • 518

            #35
            Originally posted by Lessthanusual
            Would you be able to use a e-mag trigger frame with that mq-valve?
            I'm sure it co9uld be configured to do so. It's just a matter of changing wiring connections.

            But it's more intended for people going from a mech Mag to an electronic option.
            /s/ Mel C. Maravilla
            PBX Battlezone
            PBX Paintball Station Inc.
            PBX Ballistix Lab
            PBX@NYC Paintball

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            • FragTek
              RPG DevilMAG Owner
              • Sep 2003
              • 2382

              #36
              Originally posted by SpecialBlend2786
              Thats awesome! It would be even more so if you could get the Eblades eyes to work witht he mag
              It'd be uber AGG if you could rig up some breakbeams... The E-Blade eye is junk to the 10th power.

              FragTek Customs - Cyborg Owners Group
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              "AGD is good because 2/3 of their name is AGG :)" - DiRtY HiPpY

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              • PBX Ronin 23
                Registered User
                • Jul 2004
                • 518

                #37
                Don't worry, PBX will be coming out with a lot of pleasant surprises in the near future. I'm hopeful though that we can positively impact those who have helped us in the past with whatever it is that we do in the future.
                /s/ Mel C. Maravilla
                PBX Battlezone
                PBX Paintball Station Inc.
                PBX Ballistix Lab
                PBX@NYC Paintball

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                • WenULiVeUdiE
                  Force of Nature Staff
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 1982

                  #38
                  Originally posted by PBX Ronin 23
                  Don't worry, PBX will be coming out with a lot of pleasant surprises in the near future. I'm hopeful though that we can positively impact those who have helped us in the past with whatever it is that we do in the future.
                  The Village loves you. Is the Cp reg required for this? In the past, all secondary regs have just decreased flow, and were not good for the valve's operation. But now I see a CP reg, and I'm think another reg may be needed. Is this true? I know it's only the Alpha stage, so I dont think you know this all yet.

                  Oh yea, I'm guessing you would use your frame( or of similar design) that you use on your cockers?


                  Andrew
                  Hey, look at that! It's Santa!

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                  • penguinpunk555
                    Wheel Chair Zombie
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 1489

                    #39
                    It is better then a mag...
                    click here for feedback
                    Fear the Ninja

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                    • PBX Ronin 23
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 518

                      #40
                      Originally posted by WenULiVeUdiE
                      The Village loves you. Is the Cp reg required for this? In the past, all secondary regs have just decreased flow, and were not good for the valve's operation. But now I see a CP reg, and I'm think another reg may be needed. Is this true? I know it's only the Alpha stage, so I dont think you know this all yet.

                      Oh yea, I'm guessing you would use your frame( or of similar design) that you use on your cockers?
                      Thanks for your very kind words Andrew. For this particular proto, the in-line was needed but variations of the mQ-Valves will have different air input requirements. We don't necessarily need an in-line reg. It all depends on which model........

                      We've obviously leaned towards the Timmy style trigger in our Cocker E-Kits because it gave the end users more ergonomic choices with the myriad of after-market Timmy triggers available. Plus it was the trigger of choice in our surveys.

                      Originally posted by penguinpunk555
                      It is better then a mag...
                      This depends on your perspective, I guess. But only time can tell.
                      Last edited by PBX Ronin 23; 09-11-2004, 06:56 AM.
                      /s/ Mel C. Maravilla
                      PBX Battlezone
                      PBX Paintball Station Inc.
                      PBX Ballistix Lab
                      PBX@NYC Paintball

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                      • nicad
                        wannabe newbe
                        • May 2002
                        • 992

                        #41
                        Any word on efficiency ... IE- in^3*LB used per shot? Input pressure @ FPS (how deep into the tank can it go).

                        Thanks-
                        Colin
                        ColinMoritz

                        Chord, Chord V2, Dallara, Karta, current project: (coming soon)

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                        • PBX Ronin 23
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 518

                          #42
                          Originally posted by nicad
                          Any word on efficiency ... IE- in^3*LB used per shot? Input pressure @ FPS (how deep into the tank can it go).

                          Thanks-
                          Colin
                          I may not be the best person to respond to this query if you're looking for mathematical equations but I'll try my best.

                          At the current moment we're using a Level 7 bolt with a short (stock) spring. We recognized the fact that we can certainly go to a lighter bolt and spring combo and still get the requisite return speed to cycle the gun at high speeds.

                          We can control the dwell time to 0.25ms which would give us a great deal of tuneability to find the perfect spot.

                          I was trying to find a post made by mquinn96 in our PBX Cocker thread in PBN that goes to answer this same exact question on a more technical footing.

                          At the very least it should match or surpass the Level 7's efficiency numbers.

                          BTW, in a totally tangential direction, this valve would look awesome with one of your bodies. I certainly wouldn't mind putting one together for myself Colin.....(hint)
                          Last edited by PBX Ronin 23; 09-10-2004, 11:02 PM.
                          /s/ Mel C. Maravilla
                          PBX Battlezone
                          PBX Paintball Station Inc.
                          PBX Ballistix Lab
                          PBX@NYC Paintball

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                          • Beemer
                            I could tell you but then.

                            • Oct 2003
                            • 3250

                            #43
                            Originally posted by wantamag
                            rogue, stop bothering people with irrelevant questions.

                            Originally posted by RogueFactor
                            Hopefully you were kidding. Dayspring suggested I post these questions.
                            Theres always Hope, but I didnt think he was. He cant spell irrelavant so he might not know
                            what it means.

                            Any way good relevant questions, now I dont have to ask some of them. Thanks for the answers to

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                            • Lohman446
                              Useful posts: 7
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 9315

                              #44
                              Wonderful idea, mag or no. Face it, when looking for compact (read single tube) markers, theres not a whole lot out there. This is a great idea, would love to see the final variant
                              "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                              • PBX Ronin 23
                                Registered User
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 518

                                #45
                                Everyone should feel free to ask any questions that's pertinent to the thread subject. We'll try to answer them as much as we can unless business and legal issues will preclude us from doing so.
                                /s/ Mel C. Maravilla
                                PBX Battlezone
                                PBX Paintball Station Inc.
                                PBX Ballistix Lab
                                PBX@NYC Paintball

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