Is Pro Team Preventing the Release of the hAIr?

[Mosfet]

so DW's frame is a pneumatic assist?
I thought it was pure mechanical (non pneu)

[jinxed]

Anyone know EXACTLY how it works?

Every description I've seen basically just shows an adaption of the VECTOR TRIGGER.

The Vector had a fully pneumatic trigger, AND WAS NOT PATENTED.

If I was Tom, and I'm not, I'd tell PTP to go to hell. The Vector came out 11 years ago.
Nothing PTP has is original. IT IS OLD TECHNOLOGY.

Did PTP get a patent? Sure.
A couple years ago, someone got a patent ON THE POWERFEED 10 years after TOM INVENTED IT to.

Its EASY to get a patnet. IT IS HARD to enfore it. From what I've seen, this PTP patent is worthless.

Nick

[Meph]

Well can at least read it, but for some reason the images won't work. Keep getting blank screen. Damn quicktime.

[Pain For Pleasure]

Well can at least read it, but for some reason the images won't work. Keep getting blank screen. Damn quicktime.

Mabey its their site? I had issues with the pictures on their site just the other day.

How did DW not hear of this before they started work. If they applied 3 years ago, I'm surprised no one heard of it. It also goes to show the shape our patent office is in.

[zaqwert6]

Also note the filing date almost 2 years after what that PTP dude was claiming.

The present application is based on and claims priority to U.S. Provisional Patent Application Ser. No. 60/252,230, filed on Nov. 21, 2000.

Sounds about right to me.

[Muzikman]

Problem I see is if PT does come out with a frame for the Mag, it's going to be like every other PT product, sloppy tolorances and not work half the time. I have not been too impressed by the things I have seen from PT over the years, with the exception of the MicroCockers. But even they had some issues.

I would like to see the hAir make it, and have it fully supported and sold by AGD. That way we know it will work.

[spantol]

I still can't see them through the USPTO site, but they show up just fine in HaveBlue's pdf:

http://haveblue.org/tech/patents/pat2pdf/pat6802305.pdf

Well can at least read it, but for some reason the images won't work. Keep getting blank screen. Damn quicktime.

[madmolly]

Did you see the price

I know I was reading where the hair trigger was going to be around 250 to do. Now PTP price it has listed is 125.00. That is cheap. How can they be doing it for half the price of NICAD

[Mosfet]

ok, so if I just read that right, they've just patented the Autococker? WTF?


Why can't they be more like Tippmann?
Was it Tippmann that had the Pin Valve for CO2 tanks, could have patented it, but decided not to, so that it would benefit Paintball as a whole?

[Janixs]

ok, so if I just read that right, they've just patented the Autococker? WTF?


Why can't they be more like Tippmann?
Was it Tippmann that had the Pin Valve for CO2 tanks, could have patented it, but decided not to, so that it would benefit Paintball as a whole?

you can thank smarts parts for that

[gc82000]

Where did you see a price???

[teufelhunden]

ok, so if I just read that right, they've just patented the Autococker? WTF?


Why can't they be more like Tippmann?
Was it Tippmann that had the Pin Valve for CO2 tanks, could have patented it, but decided not to, so that it would benefit Paintball as a whole?

Because this is paintball of new, not paintball of old. Paintball used to be about paintball.. and now it's about business.

Hope this is what all you guys wanted when you said "Let's get paintball huge.. let's get it on TV, popular, and accepted!"

Liked it back how it was, when I got a look when I said I balled, when there was 10 guys in my school that would get together and shoot at eachother for a day. When every other paintball conversation didn't involve SP/Nazis/Evil Empires..

[alouba]

http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=260763&perpage=20&pagenumber=4

read the post by Steve Davidson near the middle

[Mosfet]

So will WGP have to start paying royalties in order to make cockers they've basically been making since the 90's?

or does the cocker make the pneumatic portion of the patent basically null and void?

[madmolly]

article

if you go to www.68caliber.com and read the article it says it is going to be at World Cup for 125.00 That seems way too cheap. Maybe not.