Is Pro Team Preventing the Release of the hAIr?

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  • Tim Taylor
    More Power
    • Feb 2003
    • 177

    #31
    Take a look at the next patent! A neuromuscular disrupter.

    I know it doesn't relate but that just sounds very Star Trek

    Neuro Muscular Disrupter

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    • Aiecc Ixi
      MINIMAGS r' US
      • Sep 2004
      • 29

      #32
      i got a couple questions will it work for the mag? and i forgort my other one sorry

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      • bertmcmahan
        Not pop, it's all Coke
        • Jan 2002
        • 1960

        #33
        I didn't fully re ad that patent thing, can someone tell me the gist of what it covers? Does it cover ALL pneumatically triggered paintball guns, or just the special hAIR-type thingy? Cause pneumatics firing a gun is kinda broad. Sorta like one that would cover having a trigger on a paintball gun. I would understand if it was the special kind that is used in this PTP one and the DW one. BTW yeah, the DW is pneumatic. Where would the power to trip all that stuff come from? Plus pneumatics are considered mechanical. Stuff is pretty much either electrical or mechanical, if you're talking about pball stuff.
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        • jinxed
          resident old guy
          • Jun 2001
          • 92

          #34
          The patent says that all mechanical guns have a trigger that is directly connected to a sear. (ie blowbacks, cockers, mags)

          Basically, it says you could make the trigger pull lighter by having the trigger actuate a 3-way, and then having a ram trip the actual sear.

          OK. Great.
          Except, this is how the Vector, Epic, Equalizer, Omega, Nova, etc, do not have sears connected directly to the trigger. They are all fully pneumatic.

          Plus, people have been doing pneumatic-trigger mods since 1994.

          PTP could legitimetly claim they have the FIRST "BOLT-ON" kit. Not sure how that warrants a patent.... though it only takes an autotrigger, and some extra hose to make a cocker trigger fully pneumatic. This is an "old school" speed mod for cockers.

          Consider the Equalizer I mentioned above. It works almost IDENTICAL to the MAG, except the trigger is fully pneumatic. That is probobly a clear example of prior art... as fair as AGD is concerned with there new trigger.

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          • Mosfet
            Fear the Bunny
            • Aug 2004
            • 273

            #35
            So basically everyone can just ignore this patent and go about their merry way doing what they were doing! yeay!

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            • nt2004
              yeah, thats right...
              • May 2003
              • 832

              #36
              Originally posted by Aiecc Ixi
              i got a couple questions will it work for the mag? and i forgort my other one sorry
              i dont know but i guess you could turn a mag into a neuro muscular disrupter
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              • Aiecc Ixi
                MINIMAGS r' US
                • Sep 2004
                • 29

                #37
                noice im gonna get right on that



                NOT

                lol jk

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                • bertmcmahan
                  Not pop, it's all Coke
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 1960

                  #38
                  Actually, now that you say that, the patent would NOT cover mags. The trigger is not directly connected to the sear. It interacts with it, but it's not directly connected. Of course that would mean that spyders aren't either, and maybe this is just an issue of wording. Oh well.
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                  • jinxed
                    resident old guy
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 92

                    #39
                    Originally posted by bertmcmahan
                    Of course that would mean that spyders aren't either, and maybe this is just an issue of wording. Oh well.
                    I think the exact language is "connected to the sear via mechanical linkage" which would include cockers, mags and blowbacks.

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                    • bertmcmahan
                      Not pop, it's all Coke
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 1960

                      #40
                      Ah, ok, I didn't read the entire thing.
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