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  • Miltonyz
    Registered User
    • Nov 2002
    • 224

    #1

    Empire barrel woes

    I am disapointed with the quality of my empire barrel kit.

    Yesterday playing paintball at my local field I managed to snap my empire barrel kit.

    I was making a mid-game move towards the left fifty when I came into heavy fire. I hit the ground hard belly first planning on crawling the rest of the way in. I tip the scales at 185 so the impact with the ground was pretty severe. I held the gun up as I came down so as to not slam it on the ground. The order of impact went my chest, then my elbows slammed the ground and I dropped the gun from the shock. I ended up behind the bunker with the gun close to my feet. I had been hit going in but I wanted to get my gun before I checked myself. I scrambled back to get the gun and it was laying on the ground, and beside it was laying the front half of my barell. I threw the front half of my barrel at the net and checked myself, turns out that the ball that hit me did break so I retrieved my barrel piece and left the field. I played the rest of the day with only my barrel back on.

    If the gun had slammed the ground I could see this happening but I held it up to lessen the impact. My egg survived unscathed with only a broken ball in the hopper. The barrel broke off just past the threads where the oring sits. Looking at it is easy to see why the barrel broke. At that point the aluminum is paper thin.

    Pictures can be seen here
  • logamus
    Registered Abuser
    • Dec 2002
    • 2346

    #2
    wow, that sure sucks. replace it with a kaner.


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    • Miltonyz
      Registered User
      • Nov 2002
      • 224

      #3
      Probably just gonna with a cheap 689 barrel. I shoot an open bolt gun so no worries with ball sizing.

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      • rikkter
        • Jun 2002
        • 1804

        #4
        since when has an open bolt marker result in no need for sizing the barrel to paint?
        viking #619

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        • Miltonyz
          Registered User
          • Nov 2002
          • 224

          #5
          since when has an open bolt marker result in no need for sizing the barrel to paint
          Because all ball sizing does is increase efficiency. I have a 90/4500 tank so efficency is not a problem.

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          • rikkter
            • Jun 2002
            • 1804

            #6
            and what about accuracy? -i'd still size it even if i had a tank that size, but then again thats just me
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            • Miltonyz
              Registered User
              • Nov 2002
              • 224

              #7
              Paint to barrel match does not affect accuracy.

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              • rikkter
                • Jun 2002
                • 1804

                #8
                according to many tests done by quite a few people (warpig being one i believe), and along with other people, paint to barrel match does affect accuracy... or did someone come out with new data proving it doesn't?
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                • Miltonyz
                  Registered User
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 224

                  #9
                  Paintball Talk is the main forum for Automags.org. Here is where we talk about the sport of paintball in general and make announcements relating to the forum and website.


                  Maybe you could argue your points on this thread. I really don't want to get into it on this one.

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                  • FireITup14
                    Barney, Tonight we shower!
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 434

                    #10
                    there was a big thread about this a couple days ago it was a good read

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                    • rikkter
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 1804

                      #11
                      i'm not trying to argue or anything, i was trying to just get more informed on it because it sounded like you knew what you were talking about, hence the question of me asking if someone came out with new info, thanks
                      viking #619

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                      • trains are bad
                        Registered User
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 1751

                        #12
                        I'm dissappointed in the apparent quality of mine too. I haven't had any problems except that it likes to get stuck on my ule body, it just feels cheap.

                        I also agree that paint maching is a waste of time, I only do it with my cocker so I don't get roll outs.
                        TRB's feedback

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                        • RTDynaflow
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 320

                          #13
                          Err.. so because some guy, years ago, came up with a hypothesis and then preceded to saying "it is so - because I said so".. never once doing any scientific tests, and we are to just take it at face value because he said so???

                          A better post would be to say "..the difference in accuracy from a perfect paint to barrel match, compared to +/- one or two sizes, is negligible.." "Thus, a perfect paint to barrel match, for me, doesn't justify the money spent on a barrel kit"

                          It brings on less posts like this one

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                          • Lohman446
                            Useful posts: 7
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 9315

                            #14
                            Agree with RTDynaflow on this one. I'm not going to dispute that a good paint to barrel match helps accuracy in controlled circumstances (I have seen the tests to prove it does). However, I beleive that the effect is so minor on something that is already a poor porjectile object (a .68 3 gram object is going to be a poor projectile) that I would rather not risk breaks and settle for less than the best accuracy possible, because it is so negligible. I normally play with a .691 insert.
                            "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                            • rikkter
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 1804

                              #15
                              i agree, i usually size them then use the next higher insert depending on how they fit so i get at least a close but loose fit
                              viking #619

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