WARNING to everyone! M.A.X. cannot anodize Automags. (Please Read)

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  • Empyreal Rogue
    Zetsubou Billy
    • Apr 2004
    • 1103

    #1

    WARNING to everyone! M.A.X. cannot anodize Automags. (Please Read)

    Okay, about 4 or 5 weeks ago I sent my marker off to M.A.X. Anodizing to get it anodized. I spoke with them over the phone and told them about my Automag and how particular they can be. The guy I spoke to said, "Oh it's no problem we've done them before." I was kind of skeptical at first but I thought, "Ah what the hell!" I got it in the mail last week and it looked GORGEOUS. Absolutely beautiful, I couldn't have asked for a better job. However, little did I know what was about to happen.

    On the AO-Mid-Atlantic day (Earlier today, actually) the gun just went to hell in a hand-basket. FragTek diagnosed it and said the body, rail or frame lost it tolerances with a valve. The parts will work individually but together they won't. Now I don't exactly understand how it works but basically, they didn't know what they were doing simply because they get VERY few Automags. It may be a Valve problem as well, but my marker didn't work with my X-Valve nor my friend's ReTro-Valve or another friend's E-Mag valve.

    Now sure you guys could just blame me for this but I don't care. In fact, this incident actually gave me the opportunity to buy a DevilMag that I've wanted for so long, but that's not the point. The point is to warn AO's Automag owners from doing the same thing I did. I'd suggest Tunaman or White Wolf because they're certified Automag techies so they know what they're doing. WW may take a LONG time on projects compared to M.A.X. but if you go with M.A.X. you have a chance of getting a marker that flat-out doesn't work since they don't know how to work with Automags.
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  • WenULiVeUdiE
    Force of Nature Staff
    • Jan 2004
    • 1982

    #2
    Contact them. That is completely unacceptable. You sould get some sort of compensation. They usually do very high quality work.
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    • evan123
      Absolutely Pimpin'
      • Aug 2003
      • 868

      #3
      Your fault for deciding to go with the color of a gun over the performance of the devilmag.

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      • emagballa560
        Got Emag? I dont...Dm4 :)
        • Aug 2004
        • 1093

        #4
        WOW

        thats sucks, is there anyway to fix it? like take the crapy anno off?

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        • Empyreal Rogue
          Zetsubou Billy
          • Apr 2004
          • 1103

          #5
          Originally posted by evan123
          Your fault for deciding to go with the color of a gun over the performance of the devilmag.
          Actually I wasn't able to afford a DevilMag before I sent it to be Anodized. And when I started this marker he was using the Hyperframe, which I despise. :X But if I part it out then I can get most of the money for one.

          WenULiVeUdiE, I'm definitely going to call them. If they can't give me any compensation then I will at least demand they do something about Automags in the future.
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          • DiSoRdeR
            Pump enthusiast
            • Jul 2003
            • 1767

            #6
            That sucks, I hope every thing gets resolved in the end.

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            • Muzikman
              Everything AGD
              • Dec 2000
              • 6229

              #7
              Damn, how thick is that damn ano? I have not heard many storied of tolerances being thrown off by ano. I know it can happen, especially when they are tight, but still strange.

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              • BobTheCow63
                IAO Gold Star winner (BTK)
                • Dec 2002
                • 3832

                #8
                Originally posted by emagballa560
                thats sucks, is there anyway to fix it? like take the crapy anno off?
                It's not the color of the material... do you know how annodzing works? In a nutshell, you basically alter the composition of the material being ano'd, and so if you don't do it right, you totally mess up the actual metal that's being colored. Which seems like it happened to Rogue. Sorry to hear that man, hope it all works out!!
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                • paintballer187
                  PBN Mod
                  • Sep 2001
                  • 1733

                  #9
                  How can anyone else do anything different when anodizing? Isn't anno the same thickness from company to company?

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                  • gtrsi
                    Automag?
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 5786

                    #10
                    Originally posted by evan123
                    Your fault for deciding to go with the color of a gun over the performance of the devilmag.

                    slow down sweetie,
                    hwo was it is fualt? Donest the anno company bear some responsibility for excepting the work. Tuna has his cutsom Emags annoed all the time, not to mention the number of X mag woners who have hade there guns done. Sounds to me like someone screwed up and it wasnt the owner..
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                    • paintballer187
                      PBN Mod
                      • Sep 2001
                      • 1733

                      #11
                      Originally posted by gtrsi
                      slow down sweetie,
                      hwo was it is fualt? Donest the anno company bear some responsibility for excepting the work. Tuna has his cutsom Emags annoed all the time, not to mention the number of X mag woners who have hade there guns done. Sounds to me like someone screwed up and it wasnt the owner..
                      I think he was being sarcastic.

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                      • Empyreal Rogue
                        Zetsubou Billy
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 1103

                        #12
                        Originally posted by gtrsi
                        slow down sweetie,
                        hwo was it is fualt? Donest the anno company bear some responsibility for excepting the work. Tuna has his cutsom Emags annoed all the time, not to mention the number of X mag woners who have hade there guns done. Sounds to me like someone screwed up and it wasnt the owner..
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                        • evan123
                          Absolutely Pimpin'
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 868

                          #13
                          Why would a automag be differnt then any other gun after Annoing it?

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                          • gtrsi
                            Automag?
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 5786

                            #14
                            Originally posted by paintballer187
                            I think he was being sarcastic.

                            I never know unless they use smilies. Kids these days, you wold be amazed at some of the crap I heard at the field today. I swear companies are going to start selling guns with matching appereal.
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                            • Empyreal Rogue
                              Zetsubou Billy
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 1103

                              #15
                              Originally posted by evan123
                              Why would a automag be differnt then any other gun after Annoing it?
                              I believe because of the way the sear releases the bolt and how thick the anodizing was put on. I honestly don't know, I can just guess.

                              And to be honest, I don't think they even stripped my parts of the original anodizing which is why it's so thick. I am certainly going to contact them about it.
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