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  • punkncat
    One foot less
    • Feb 2003
    • 5841

    #1

    Another one of those rambling which marker threads....lol

    I find myself kinda in a fix...

    I recently sold off the better part of my Mag. The most important piece of course being the X valve. The thing that I hated about my X valve was its constant need for oil and attention. I couldn't skip a weekend of play and have the marker not leak , or require some attention to chrono right , not bolt stick , ect. Its not that I couldn't do it , it just was a hassle. I have heard many people talk about the reliability and lack of trouble with the X valve ...I guess mine was just needy?

    I replaced it with a Dye Matrix. I have used the Matrix for a few weekends and just can't really get used to it. Its really accurate , ultra fast , and with the eyes and Trinity reg , it doesn't chop just like I was used to with the LX in the X valve. I really like the way the Matrix performs , but dislike the weight and feel of it. It just doesn't feel natural the way the Mag did. I have also found that the Trix requires a bit of attention also. Frequent maintainance and lubing , that generally result in nicks on O rings , leaks , etc...easy to fix , but a hassle just the same.

    I suppose I am just ranting a bit about my luck with markers. I mean I do play hard and often. I should expect a bit of wear and tear on my equipment. I just long for the days when I really could just pull the gun out of the bag , load it up and go. I didn't have a feel for a marker , and just was happy to pull the trigger and it fire...... I would like to find something as fast as the Matrix , with the feel of the Mag , and reliable the way a classic valve is.....

    Am I dreaming ?
  • t33kyboy
    Member #10,261
    • Jan 2004
    • 942

    #2
    couldve told me this before you sold the valve to me!!

    quikkk and i win.

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    • Steelrat
      I meant to...uh, nevermind
      • May 2003
      • 5375

      #3
      Viking. Fast, reliable, uber easy to maintain.


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      • punkncat
        One foot less
        • Feb 2003
        • 5841

        #4
        Originally posted by t33kyboy
        couldve told me this before you sold the valve to me!!
        Don't get me wrong....it worked fine all the time that I played with it frequently. I only had problems with it leaking when I skipped a few weekends. All it required to fix was to oil the powertube and load oil in the ASA , take off the barrel and fire it through a tank of air. I hear this is fairly normal with many LX equipped valves. It just was such a hassle when I skipped a few weeks of play and had to lube the thing up to play.

        I certainly would not have sold it to you if I though there was something "really" wrong with it w/o telling you.

        PS- the bolt stick was a result of my adjusting the trigger for maximum rate of fire. A problem I never encountered before switching from the Intelliframe to the Logic frame.

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        • t33kyboy
          Member #10,261
          • Jan 2004
          • 942

          #5
          I was jk. It was a great price, i didnt care what condition it was in

          Thanks again.

          quikkk and i win.

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          • punkncat
            One foot less
            • Feb 2003
            • 5841

            #6
            Originally posted by t33kyboy
            I was jk. It was a great price, i didnt care what condition it was in

            Thanks again.

            You had me for a minute

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            • tru_flip56
              Registered User
              • Apr 2004
              • 278

              #7
              look in to the 05 speed...its easy to maintain and no need to upgrade it besides volumizers.and if you dont like the 90 grips they also have the 45 available...so you get more of a choice to which frame you like better...

              either that or what steelrat said..
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              • LittlePaintballBoy

                #8
                Originally posted by Steelrat
                Viking. Fast, reliable, uber easy to maintain.
                This man speaks the truth.

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                • FallNAngel
                  Registered User
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 1076

                  #9
                  Originally posted by punkncat
                  It just was such a hassle when I skipped a few weeks of play and had to lube the thing up to play.
                  God forbid you have to give it a few drops of oil

                  Yeah, definately stay away from the Matrix, Freestyle and Cyborg... all of which actually require you to disassemble the marker and *grease* it ::gasp:: Hell, if oiling a marker before a day of play, you should probably quit paintball all together. Any marker you get is going to require some form of maintenance and we all know how big of a hassle a few drops of oil can be
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                  • 68magOwner
                    Registered User
                    • May 2003
                    • 3475

                    #10
                    angel or viking

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                    • JKR
                      Stainless Steel 'Mag Lover
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 392

                      #11
                      You need a Palmer Blazer. :)

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                      • punkncat
                        One foot less
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 5841

                        #12
                        Originally posted by FallNAngel
                        God forbid you have to give it a few drops of oil

                        Yeah, definately stay away from the Matrix, Freestyle and Cyborg... all of which actually require you to disassemble the marker and *grease* it ::gasp:: Hell, if oiling a marker before a day of play, you should probably quit paintball all together. Any marker you get is going to require some form of maintenance and we all know how big of a hassle a few drops of oil can be

                        I just love when some punk has to throw in his .02......

                        OK , Mr. Smarty pants.

                        The reason that I found it a problem was the claim that "RT's can sit in the trunk of your car for months , pull it out and play w/o doing anything to it." I am not quoting word for word , but this was said by TK regarding his new valves. I am completly aware that all markers require maintainance on a regular basis to operate properly. I would just like to find one that doesn't require it every single time I get to the field.

                        I am not really sure that I had a point in posting this here , but it certainly wasn't to be the target of your crappy attitude or smart arse replies. I can get all I want of that from my 12 year old daughter.....

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                        • Lohman446
                          Useful posts: 7
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 9315

                          #13
                          Originally posted by punkncat
                          I just love when some punk has to throw in his .02......

                          OK , Mr. Smarty pants.

                          The reason that I found it a problem was the claim that "RT's can sit in the trunk of your car for months , pull it out and play w/o doing anything to it." I am not quoting word for word , but this was said by TK regarding his new valves. I am completly aware that all markers require maintainance on a regular basis to operate properly. I would just like to find one that doesn't require it every single time I get to the field.

                          I am not really sure that I had a point in posting this here , but it certainly wasn't to be the target of your crappy attitude or smart arse replies. I can get all I want of that from my 12 year old daughter.....
                          Actually I normally hear, let it sit for months at a time, oil it up, air it up and go.

                          I think its an issue in high end markers, as with anything else if you push the edges of performance you are going to have maintenance issues. And these are fairly small things designed to operate at very high pressures - even the markers shooting "low" pressure 100PSI range. This is going to cause some maintenance issues I think just because of that.

                          I know that my Shockers require quite a bit of maintenance, more than I would like to see. And I got sick of the mag for the same reasons you stated, the Shocker I was more accepting of the maintenance, theres not a good reason why, perhaps its just I really wanted to like my "new" marker. Come to think of it... I have to go fix one of mine that my teammate has LOL
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                          • Torbo
                            teamless
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 1737

                            #14
                            for low maintainance, i guess id say viking or angel. I dont have too much experiance with vikings but everyone says there hot, and the new speeds are definatly awesome. However, id suggest an intimidator. The maintainance isnt bad at all, it takes about 15 minutes every 4 cases.
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                            • teufelhunden
                              Registered Bamf
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 2691

                              #15
                              I hardly consider three drops of oil into the ASA before you screw the tank in 'maintenance' ..
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