Tournament Series Idea.....anyone step in

[Kaiser Bob]

Im a gangster, grr im mad...

If you put it to the ballers that this is an opportunity to see how good they are without the firepower in a 'put up or shut up' way you'd probably a decent response. Of course you need good prizes. Hell, youll get tourney players in a event where you use blowguns if the prizes were good enough.

PS- Both are good but I'd vote for #2 if there can only be one

[LudavicoSoldier]

I'd play in #2! Now if someone would just bring the old format of 5/10 man in the woods back... You CAN have a nicely setup field IN THE WOODS, contrary to current tourny promoter belief.

[-=Squid=-]

some people just dont get it.... I am not a tourney player. I think tourney means bouncing electro+lots paint. I understand that the game may never change back to the way it used to be before it was invaded by "iz hot stunna's" but maybe one event a year like this would be pretty sweet.

Don't get me wrong, i'm sure it would be fun. I just hope that they know that no tourney players will show up (who knows about recballers), and again, why bother calling it a tournament if you don't want tournament players?

- Goro

[LudavicoSoldier]

You don't think ANY tourny players would be interested in trying a different format if everyone was on the same page in terms of equipment? Are they really that jaded?

[GT]

Don't get me wrong, i'm sure it would be fun. I just hope that they know that no tourney players will show up (who knows about recballers), and again, why bother calling it a tournament if you don't want tournament players?

- Goro

Thats just it. The more people you get invovled on the baseline the more guys push up to "real"(whatever that means) style tournies. I swear if some promoters and feild owners looked at the big picture they would be making money AND furthering the game.

but what do I know I am JUST a rec baller

[TAG]

If you have the extra funds to do such, i'd say go for it. Only reason I said that is because it can be hard to live on paintball business alone, and when you do have events, you want to make money.

Actually it is easy to survive in the paintball business. You simply treat it just like it is your day job.....or make it your day job. Everything changes then In our area we have guys opening up stores and fields constantly. Usually to stick it to those darn store/field owners that made them pay full price for a gun so they could pay the rent to keep their business open. We dont see them doing much for the paintball community. Why would they? They just wanted to play for free.

Since my paintball business does pay the bills we can afford to help promote the sport in our community. To be honest we do not even sell the items that would benefit from an event like this but all of the local stores do. This would be a way to bring new players into the local scene.

We need new blood to keep the sport active. Everyone agree? Even if this would bring 5 more kids to the local fields after each event then I think it was a success.

[TAG]

Sounds like a good idea... Till noone shows up. Sorry to be negative, but that's just how this sort of thing goes. You won't get any tourney players at all.

- Goro

Good...then we dont have to listen to the constant whining about the paint, the fields, the refs, the prizes, etc. We might even get a full day of play with no temper tantrums or cursing fits in front of the kids....LOL

Not sure what type of tournament players you have in your area but here we just have really good players/teams that are looking for the competition of the sport. Some players actually have skills that they can use instead of hiding behind a fast gun. One of my best players uses a pump mag when he plays rec ball. and.......he actually finishes the games still alive. Wait.....he somtimes even plays against the local tournament players......and he still lives at the end of the games.

Remember....its a game and there is competition. Sure you will not have the ability to run around in the staging area beating your chest becasue you have the newest high speed mega marker on the planet but that is not what this is about. We could have a seperate area when all of the "big" tournament players can shoot their guns fast and stuff.

ok ok ok.....there is apoint to all of this. Dont ever rely on just the tournament players to keep your business/field/event open. That 10 percent of the paintball community is not really that important when it comes to an event like this. If they show up and play I bet most of them will have a good time.

Tournament player recent facts:
We just hosted our annual Toys for Tots event. Over 350 players brought toys for a good cause. Many people that brouht toys did not even play. None of the local tournament teams brought anything...and I didnt even see a single tournament player from our area all weekend. This was not a scenario thang...it was a paintball players helping kids for christmas thang.

so...if we build it they will come and "they" dont have to be tournament players.

Disclaimer: Yes...I am a tournament player so I am allowed to talk bad about my own kind. It is written in the paintball bible. Chapter 4 2nd paragraph. Please dont try to tell me I am wrong about tournament players as I have been involved in that area of paintball since the late 80's. Yes, I complained about EVERYTHING at some time or another. We usually lost becasue of the refs or the other team cheated.....never because the other team was better

[hitech]

We usually lost becasue of the refs or the other team cheated.....never because the other team was better

I don't remember playing on the same team!?!?

I'd like to play in something like that, however, I'm not likely to be traveling very far to play in the near future (new baby ).

[hitech]

...and again, why bother calling it a tournament if you don't want tournament players?

Once they play in that tournament they ARE tournament players. It doesn't HAVE to be a free-for-all, see who can shoot the fastest/most, tiny open field to be a tournament. There doesn't have to be only one style of tournament. Stock class tournaments are still tournaments and the players are still tournament players. Even if they don't act like one.

[Muzikman]

For those at the first ShatnerBall, AM-P put on a 5 man pump tournament using their Illusions (which they supplied). It was a TON of fun, and I think everyone that played it would agree. They did have some issues in that they did not have enough tanks, loaders and guns for that matter. They were having issues turing around games because of this.

If you do this, I will be sure to be there and playing in both divisions. I also think that a true stock class tournament would be fun too.

[Creative Mayhem]

Ok...we have been watching this whole shoot faster, paint throwing ball driving scene for some time and thought we might try a different approach to a tournament series in our area.

1. 5 man old school format using pumps and Co2 - We supply the guns for the teams
2. 5 man semi but we use some of Tom's man killers - We supply the mags.

Do ya think anyone would be interested? We could do a great prize package for those that participate and with everyone on a pretty level playing field we might even attract some younger teams that would normally be afraid to set foot on the field with those 16bps shoot anythingers that move teams.

The format would be 5 man but we might do it in an Xball style with sideline coaching. Mostly AIRball but we would roll in a few select fast woods fields jsut to make the players work for the wins.

Thoughts?

I think this is a great idea, there should be more tournaments like this. Not only does the "lower" level of play encourage young player to try out tourneyball, but it also revives the movement part of tourney play.

[hitech]

...it also revives the movement part of tourney play.

[Muzikman]

Big question, are you going to move it back into the woods?:)

[-=Squid=-]

Bah... I guess i'm in the minority simply by being a tourney player, as most people on AO are not.

[wyn1370]

Bah... I guess i'm in the minority simply by being a tourney player, as most people on AO are not.

no you're in the minority for being a whiny little arse and doing a great job of holding up the stereotype of a bad tournament player

I for one think it's a great idea. There are people out there that will come to play simply because it's a chance to play, whatever the format.