Tournament Series Idea.....anyone step in

[frop]

It' be funny as hell to see someone w/ an uber-ramping/debounce electro w/ a ten-round tube crammed in the feedneck! Then he has to reload every time he pulls the trigger.

[azzkikr]

well bob, you know i'm in reguardless of what format. so just say the word dude

later
AZZKIKR

[GT]

This would be pretty cool:

Different rules for different ROF. You could allow bouncing timmy's/dm4's but only allow them to bring a hopper, Mech's 600 rnds, pumps unlimited.

It would bring a whole new dynamic to the game if you also allowed only a certian number of those guns on teh field. talk about tactics!

[TDonovan]

Would you have to stop them from sharing paint? If you wanted to get around those rules the guy with the pump would bring a huge pack and throw/drop pods for his dm4 using buddy.

If there was a pump tourny in my area I'd definitely be there. A mech wouldn't be bad either, but I want to play pump (stock class IMO is best way to play pump).

However, I wouldn't want to ever use a gun that wasn't mine. I just like to use my own gear because I'm familiar with it and don't like the idea of me possibly damaging someone else's stuff. That's why I don't ever borrow/trade guns at the field.

[-=Squid=-]

If you didn't read my posts, why are you responding to them?!?

Save us all the bother and put me on your ignore list.

But it's classic. Last time I got into a discussion and the other person went into "La, la, la, la, I'm not listening to you!" was in, what, the second grade?

Put up or shut up Squid. I know that anything that doesn't involve YOUR definition of tourney players is unworthy in you eyes, but 90% of paintball players couldn't care less.

Nobody in this thread is asking you to change your game, so leave those that want to play in a different way alone.

[or are you just too mentally incapacitated to debate the meaning of tournament or have an intelligent discussion about alternate formats?]

No, I simply stated the facts. He will have a hard time getting a big turnout for this event, and will get very little, if any, tournament players. If you would have read my posts, I said that this was a cool idea, and would be fun, however, he can't expect much from it.

Christ you people can be stupid. I wasn't trying to argue with anyone, hence the fact I didn't post a long, drawn out rebuttle.

- Goro

[xXHavokXx]

It' be funny as hell to see someone w/ an uber-ramping/debounce electro w/ a ten-round tube crammed in the feedneck! Then he has to reload every time he pulls the trigger.

I do it all the time. It's easy. I trust my angels much more than pump guns.

[Duzzy]

This would be pretty cool:

Different rules for different ROF. You could allow bouncing timmy's/dm4's but only allow them to bring a hopper, Mech's 600 rnds, pumps unlimited.

It would bring a whole new dynamic to the game if you also allowed only a certian number of those guns on teh field. talk about tactics!

I don't think that would be wise. It would leave mech players at something of a disadvantage, and pump players would probably be at a huge disadvantage.

I play with a pump (admittedly I am not even close to good), and there are a lot of things someone can do to get you out with two hundred rounds. Like shooting most of the other team off the break, but primarily by pinning the pump players down with two people shooting "relatively" slow and have someone else bunker them.

Also, the only effective way to use your unlimited ammo would be a DF body and an automatic hopper so you can autotrigger the daylights out of everything (inaccurate to the extreme because of the motion of pumping). Also, I have never seen a pump player use more than 100 rnds of paint in any given game so I don't know what they would do with unlimited ammo.

And think about us poor stock players, you can only fit so many 10 rnd tubes and co2 cartridges on the body and still move.

End of Rant (please ask for clarification if needed, or prove me wrong if you must)

I think the tournament is an awesome idea. I would make it limited paint in Mech class though because it would make it a more even playing feild. Maybe divisions wouldn't be a bad idea, for people who have experience and those who don't (that way they can play without fear of bein bunkered).

Personally my vote is for the West so I can attend...

[CoolHand]

So, where do I go, what do I play? Well, I'll tell you...I go every where, and never play. I found that drinking beer and shooting the shiite was more fun than putting up with most of the players on the field.

This is exactly what happened to me. Burned out. Paintball had become like a job. . . . . except I wasn't making any money. I still enjoyed working on the markers though, and building things, so I went that route. Now I make money (not much, but some) doing what I love.

Squid - I think that what people are getting testy about is not so much what you are saying, but the totally arrogant and elitist way in which you are saying it. I have noticed a general theme amongst certain PB'ers - Everything they do or say is aimed at making them look good by talking down at or bagging on someone or something else. Its the same reason that so many guys with electros want break beam eyes instead of reflectives. Its not so much because the reflective eye doesn't work (they work just fine when the software is written correctly), but because that is one more thing that someone can use to bash you and your marker. Its the same motivation that possesses a guy with a 2k3 Lasoya to sell his marker (which is damned fast already) at a loss, in order to buy an Alias (for twice what he got for his Lasoya). Now he can talk down to the guy that still "only" has a 2k3.

Its that same BS elitism (what my dad would call "an over inflated sense of self worth") coupled with my lack of enjoyment that drove me from the "tourney" scene in the first place (playing at least).

I still like to watch, and tune markers for my house team, and shoot the perverbial crap, but I'm the guy that bows out when the conversation inevitably turns to bashing the "muppets" or whatever monicur is bestowed upon the less worthy who play on "their" field.

Just be nice, and enjoy the game for what it is.

[-=Squid=-]

Squid - I think that what people are getting testy about is not so much what you are saying, but the totally arrogant and elitist way in which you are saying it. I have noticed a general theme amongst certain PB'ers - Everything they do or say is aimed at making them look good by talking down at or bagging on someone or something else. Its the same reason that so many guys with electros want break beam eyes instead of reflectives. Its not so much because the reflective eye doesn't work (they work just fine when the software is written correctly), but because that is one more thing that someone can use to bash you and your marker. Its the same motivation that possesses a guy with a 2k3 Lasoya to sell his marker (which is damned fast already) at a loss, in order to buy an Alias (for twice what he got for his Lasoya). Now he can talk down to the guy that still "only" has a 2k3.

Its that same BS elitism (what my dad would call "an over inflated sense of self worth") coupled with my lack of enjoyment that drove me from the "tourney" scene in the first place (playing at least).

I still like to watch, and tune markers for my house team, and shoot the perverbial crap, but I'm the guy that bows out when the conversation inevitably turns to bashing the "muppets" or whatever monicur is bestowed upon the less worthy who play on "their" field.

Just be nice, and enjoy the game for what it is.

Why would I have an elitist attitude, when I don't even play paintball anymore? (Yes kids, looks like im going to give it up for the music)

I really don't see anything that indicates that I feel as though I am better in any way because I am/was a tournament player.

- Goro

EDIT: But then again, any person on here that wants to say something negative to me can go to hell, because I really don't care what people have to say (if it's negative) if they are saying it over the internet. This goes to you, person-who-insulted-me.

[CoolHand]

Yes of course, pay no attention, I'll go away if you think happy thoughts.

I don't know you from adam, and I'm not judging you or anything of the sort.

Its just that when you post your thoughts on a board like this, your words are all anyone has to go on, and your words were/could be construed as arrogant.

Especially - "Sounds like a good idea... Till noone shows up. Sorry to be negative, but that's just how this sort of thing goes. You won't get any tourney players at all." - Which sounds an awful lot like - "If it's a plus to have a no tourney players in a TOURNAMENT, what the hell is the point?" - which in turn sounds a lot like - "I just hope that they know that no tourney players will show up (who knows about recballers), and again, why bother calling it a tournament if you don't want tournament players?" - which all pretty much mean that without the "tourney players" the event will suck and thusly not be worth anyone's time. That is elitism at its finest. The very thought that an event could go on and do well without your support (or the support of those in your class) is unthinkable.

Hate to burst your bubble junior (not really actually), but if a business were to depend on the "tourney players" alone, they would go out of business in short order. Not only are there far fewer of you than you'd like to think, those that are out there are the PB equivalent of vampire bats. They find a victim, bleed them dry, and then move on to the next . . . . . . . *****ing about the refs the whole time.

Enjoy your bass. I've been know to go fishing myself from time to time.

If you don't realize that's a joke, there is no hope for any of us.

[Lee]

so squid, if you don't play anymore and have no intention of taking part in this event if it were to happen, then why are you posting and distracting from this?

just quit and let things be.

[-=Squid=-]

so squid, if you don't play anymore and have no intention of taking part in this event if it were to happen, then why are you posting and distracting from this?

just quit and let things be.

Because people are insulting me when I am posting things which are true? I am still interested in the sport?

Just because I don't play anymore doesn't mean I have no opinnions towards it.

It seems as though he wanted feedback on the idea, and I gave it. I have heard of events like this before, and THEY GET VERY POOR TURNOUTS. Let's exclude tourney players: Even recballers don't like to give up there precious blowbacks for rentals, or what have you.

Of course I have no intention; nor do half the people posting in the thread. Wanna know why? Because all of these people are scattered across the country.

Look, it's a tournament, right? To me, this says he will want tournament players. An event like this will not draw tournament players. Because, once again, I stated the facts (which are quite obvious), that means I am being "elitist?"

Sorry to "burst your bubble," but sometimes you have to be realistic. And yes, I got your joke.

- Goro

[Muzikman]

Hmm...just because you are scattered across the country does not mean people will not come. I mean hell look at AOSE last year, look at TexBall. Thos are just drawing from AO and they are getting 100+ player turnouts. That's a decent amount of people (probably more than IAO this past year:)) for a OG meet.

If the event is promoted right, it could have a huge turn out. It will not be like a WC ot an NPPL Super7 event, but those are HUGE event series and few tournaments are that large. You also do not have to have 1000 people show up to be a success.

[Lee]

juts because it's a tournament doesn't mean it's for "tournament" players only.

your use of that term is narrow and what you consider true is not what everyone considers true. so, keep your opion to yourself.

seems like theres always some jerk that gets thier kicks by disrupting a good idea. why don't you start a new trend by being a jerk that keeps thier mouth shut.

lead, follow or get out of the way.

[-=Squid=-]

juts because it's a tournament doesn't mean it's for "tournament" players only.

your use of that term is narrow and what you consider true is not what everyone considers true. so, keep your opion to yourself.

seems like theres always some jerk that gets thier kicks by disrupting a good idea. why don't you start a new trend by being a jerk that keeps thier mouth shut.

lead, follow or get out of the way.

If you are going to disagree, that's fine, but if you're going to disagree and look like a total retard, that's not.

For one, wouldn't in most cases it be safe to assume that if you are going to hold a tournament, you want tournament players? If not, don't call it a tournament.

Two, I was FAR form being a jerk, and FAR from "Disrupting a good idea." Once again, if only you could get it through your thick skull, I was simply stating the obvious. These things happen often, and usually don't have a good turnout because people don't like to have to set there markers down, whether they are super electros or spyders.

Keep my opinion to myself? Stupid communist.

Why don't you find better quotes than what can be seen on No Fear shirts.

To everyone else, carry on. To Lee, drink motor oil.

- Goro

EDIT: I may as well throw this in there again. I think that this would be a blast. It's a great idea. However, you must face the facts that you will have a hard time getting people to show up. Recplayers aren't looking for tournaments, and tournament players aren't looking for tournaments like this.