Speedball and Hopper research...

[TheDuelist]

I have a VL3000 that I have been modifying for an Empire reloader kit. I intend to give it a shot when/ if I ever get it finished.

[WARPED1]

I had a VL300, traded it to one of my buddies a looooooooooong time ago. I'd love one again

[LeatherPants]

The is no reason for one. Like in above posts, you refill with 140 ball pods so what's the point. The only advantage is off the break or if your in a really serious game of hopper ball.

Not only that the size it would need to be to hold 300 would not justify the off the break advantage.

[Korrosion]

I'd really like to see the gen 2 warp that tom has hinted about... Integrated with the drop so its balanced, mmmmm yum

[CaliMagFan]

i could swear that there once was a 240 round halo body.... if not that big, it was something similar... i believe there was one posted on here about a year or so ago that actually belonged to Tom. I could be wrong on this, but i remember it having a T-rex-like head on the hopper.. kinda like some kind of vinyl sticker.... any1 else remember that? i'll try and dig up the link... just gimme a bit.

-kyro

[magman007]

First, no I would not buy a 300 rd hopper.

You consider yourself as average or just below average in speed but 15 bps isn't fast enough for you? So the average player can sustain 15 bps? Yeah, uh huh...

If this is for that three barreled monster of yours, do you really think that three hoppers feeding up to 15 bps isn't enough paint downrange?

I have played for nearly 17 years, mostly pump, and I want to see someone outrun any motorized hopper with a pump--even one with an autotrigger.

wow, dont you seem like an ***. if you realized the fact that most hoppers in this size (vl3000 and the tripod loader) dont feed a constant 15 bps. there for a short burst at say... 13 since they are gravity driven, and only agitated then yea, 15 bps is slow in this case, because it isnt a sustained 15. the feed rate drops phenominally to about.... 8 once those few first balls feed.

[RamboPreacher]

pertaining to "having to load to loaders when it is empty..

_I_ wouldn't wait till the hoper was empty before reloading. it just gives me more option-time when to load. as it empties, I don't _have_ to wait till it is empty to dump a loader in it, or if it is half empty dump a partial pod in and toss the reset or dink with trying to save it.

the front profile of a 300 round hoper is the same as a 200 round hopper anyway, so why would it be a bigger target in speedball? maybe on teh slight occasion that an opossing player would get up on teh r/l tapes, but that wouldn't be as nearly as frequently as if you were using this in teh rec-field/woods (which I would still use it because the play style is different, adn for different reasons).

the problem with the "big" hoppers available now is that they are too slow. again, they have the SAME profile from the front as a 175/200 round hopper.

Whenever I bring this topic up on other forums, the side profile keeps comming up as if it is a bigger target, when that is really a minimal issue on the speedball field (especially back players)

just my opinion.

[RamboPreacher]

...If this is for that three barreled monster of yours, do you really think that three hoppers feeding up to 15 bps isn't enough paint downrange?...

enough paint isn't the issue with the grinder:

http://www.pentestone.com/paintball/CustomMeansCustom.htm

the issue is that for one revolution of the crank, each barrel shoots 3 times
(this is obviously not for "normal" rec. ball), so I have to crank slowly so that
it doesn't chop, even for that first second. but you wouldn't understand since
you have never and will probebly never get to shoot it.

But this did come from a discussion about that. The hopper issue for the grinder
has been taken care of (or is in process), and is a wholly seperate topic, but since
you asked, here is the Grinder solution in process (sorry for the large images)



if anyone wnats to talk about the grinder or this, please email or PM me,
or start a new thread.

this thread was about the possibility of a _fast_, 300 ball hoper and if you would use it or not...

[WARPED1]

The is no reason for one. Like in above posts, you refill with 140 ball pods so what's the point. The only advantage is off the break or if your in a really serious game of hopper ball.

Not only that the size it would need to be to hold 300 would not justify the off the break advantage.

You're totally missing the main advantage of a 300 rounder, YOU DON'T NEED TO RELOAD AS OFTEN! Sheese!

[TheTramp]

I don't know about a 300 round loader but I'd love a 200+ version of the Halo.

Not having to reload as soon as I get to my back bunker after shooting a lave would be a BIG plus. That's when a lot of front guys make their first move (1st after the break of course) because they know the back guys are either re-loading or almost out of paint.

[Spaceman613]

I have a vl3k.. great hopper, and a teammate had his 3000's modded for rev parts so they feed quite well (uses his on an eblade, good for 10+consistantly).

I would love to have a 120 round loader.. I dont need super fast, but something better than a rev. Might just have to break down for a "trilogy" or whatever the new viewloaders are and put reloader guts into it to help keep it rolling.

[PBX Ronin 23]

I believe that VL is addressing this issue with their new Loader system that incorporates 3 different detachable hopper body sizes.

Obviously the main resistance to this idea is that you are increasing the "Targetable Silhouette" that a set-up using a hopper this large will be subject to.

[hitech]

Obviously the main resistance to this idea is that you are increasing the "Targetable Silhouette" that a set-up using a hopper this large will be subject to.

...Warp...

[LeatherPants]

You're totally missing the main advantage of a 300 rounder, YOU DON'T NEED TO RELOAD AS OFTEN! Sheese!

No you have to reload just at often EXCEPT on the break. Unless you're using 300rd pods you are reloading the same.

Explain to me how you don't reload as often once the initial 300rds are gone.

[WARPED1]

No you have to reload just at often EXCEPT on the break. Unless you're using 300rd pods you are reloading the same.

Explain to me how you don't reload as often once the initial 300rds are gone.

Think boy. You have 300 rounds instead of 140 that most loaders hold, therefore you're not needing a refill as often! Logic, man, logic ..............