renegade paintball

[baller489]

what is renegade paintball i have heard of it but i have no idea what it is

[JoshK]

If you are not talking about some team/store i havnt heard of...its basically playing at your friends house, or some other place thats not at a real field.

[alooney11]

I think it is when you play with a couple people in the woods or anywhere, just not at a paintball park.

[JoshK]

I BEAT YOU!!! LOL.

[MonsterMag]

you learn something every day

[xXHavokXx]

.... is hurting the paintball industry.

[MonsterMag]

.... is hurting the paintball industry.

Should we riot?

[Halliday]

Should we riot?

The unbeatable high.

[MonsterMag]

fellow balla's unite

[Creative Mayhem]

Although I will go with what everyone above has said, Smart Parts used to sell paintball colthing under the name Renegade. Some people used to refer to it as Renegade paintball.

[Pacifist_Farmer]

I need to disagree completely...

Renegade...or Rogue Ball, as we always called it...is where Paintabll came from

Saying it hurts the Paintball industry is like saying that people who play basketball in their driveways hurts the NBA, and all of their multimillion dollar athletic merchandizers

[Conversekidz]

I'm new to this site....

But how does it hurt the sport? If you are going to claim that people are injured while playing renegadeball that would be completely assinine of you to say. People get injured at fields all the time, its no different, you still have idiots that take off their mask in the middle of a fire fight, you still have people shooting off their guns in areas that are "no-fire" zones.

If anything "renegade" paintball is better in my opinion. Its hard to find a good place to play woodball, but if you own 200 acres of land then its nice to play on.

There is one thing that I think renegade could harm the sport in, and that is when people go and play in PUBLIC areas, such a public forests and things of that nature. That is just asking for trouble.


I just want to know why it is so wrong to play on your own property if you have it? I know the group that I play with went out and bought a chrono station just so they could make sure they were not shooting hot while they played.

[xXHavokXx]

Renegade hurts the industry as a legitimate industry, here is how:


1. It drives up insurance rates for fields. The owners of two local fields have mentioned this and have been paying costly rate hikes due to it. The reason? Accidents due to renegade paintball are more likely as renegade players often don't use chronos, often have easier mask rules and often play in public areas where spectators can get shot. The more people who can get hurt the higher insurance rates are. The more bad press the sports get the higher inurance gets.

2. Alot of renegade play is played on public land such as parks, forrests, lake areas, creeks, rivers. Here in my area the police have caught onto this area kids play because it has a creek bed hills, lots of cover and now man made bunkers. They got wind because hikers who frequent the area ended up in the crossfire and got shot. They take the kids guns, and take names. If they catch them there again they will arrest them. The fact they don't arrest them on the spot shows their willingness to say " Hey we've been lax on this in the past but now you can't do this."

3. Horrible PR. Working at a store we get semi regular police visits as our customers buy stuff from us then go play on a farmers land or in public property. Sometimes they shoot up signs on the way or do drivebys on other peoples cars. The cops want to know who it was to talk to them and we have to say "Sorry but we cannot be sure of who it was." Besides leaving paintmarkings everywhere renegade players often leave boxes plastic and other mess around. Sometimes farmers don't want kids trampling around in their property. Here most people don't have 300 acre ranches, so they find the next best thing: a farm. recently some of our renegade kids reported hearing shotgun blasts while they were playing around dusk.

4. Relaxed rules, lead to accidents. Often with a group of buddys you aren't as strict as you would be with refs at the field yelling at you about safety. We see kids coming in with welts on their faces, with welts that look like they were were shot with a real gun and by some miracle it magically deflected.Why? They can't afford a chrono. As an example we had a group of guys who decided that snipers should be able to shoot up to 350 FPS to give them extra range. What happens when someone gets close? One of them came in with a massive welt that had torn the skin off his arm.

5. Fields, despite still having safety lapses are a safer environment. Netting, chronos, refs eager to keep their jobs, and owners not wanting to get shut down all work together to make it a safe place to take your kids, and loved ones. While they are flawed they are a safer and more legal way to play.


As a store we have worked to get people out of renegade play y working with local fields to get group rates and have them try the field way. Some catch on and like it better, alot more parents do.

[adt501]

^^^ has a point

an accident will happen eventually, whether at a tournament with an out of control 30 bps electro or in Joe Somebodie's back yard with brass eagle guns and no masks. some horrible accident is bound to happen, only a matter of time

[Conversekidz]

I think another reason why renegade is "taking off" is that it gets expensive playing on fields around here. For Example:

One field near my house, $30 to play for the day. You have to use field paint, which is either $45 or $75 a case. That is a lot of money when you think about it. For rec players who don't care if they have tourny quality paint, they could go down to the local paintball store and get 2000 rounds for $30 or less.

The $30 to play for the day does include unlimited CO2 which is all well and good when you are playing with a gun that can use it, but for guys like me that only run on compressed air its costing us that much more toplay onthe field.


I am just wondering about your first reason listed, it raises rates for fields? why is that? I work in the insurance industry and have no idea why it would raise the rates? Injuries that are not related to the regulated play on a approved field should not dictate the increase of insurance. Using logic like that, it would be like if a race car driver crashed his car on a race track, and because of the accidents that are cause on race tracks it causes everyone that drives a car on the streets insurance to increase.