renegade paintball

[Conversekidz]

"3. Horrible PR. Working at a store we get semi regular police visits as our customers buy stuff from us then go play on a farmers land or in public property. Sometimes they shoot up signs on the way or do drivebys on other peoples cars. The cops want to know who it was to talk to them and we have to say "Sorry but we cannot be sure of who it was." Besides leaving paintmarkings everywhere renegade players often leave boxes plastic and other mess around. Sometimes farmers don't want kids trampling around in their property. Here most people don't have 300 acre ranches, so they find the next best thing: a farm. recently some of our renegade kids reported hearing shotgun blasts while they were playing around dusk."

People do this stupid stuff going to approved fields, why do you think its only renegade players that are shooting signs?



Just out of curiousity, have you ever shot your paintball gun off, while not on an approved field?

[xXHavokXx]

On the first reason I listed I got the infor from two separate field owners who said the exact same thing. That is wht they heard from their respective companies or company, I'm not sure if they use the same company or what.

And I have shot my gun off at a place other than the field. Always with a barrel condom. No hopper or no paint unless at the chrono range in the back of the shop with a mask on.


What field do you play at that charges that? So many options here in Nor Cal.

[alooney11]

Speedball is one reason giants like automag and autococker are going to hell. People see electros and have to have them, rather than just playing. Oh by the way renegade paintball started the whole thing, people arent playing for fun anymore.

[zeroack]

Havok lists some very valid points. It's over an hours drive to the nearest field. My "Rogue" fiield dosen't charge, but I make sure everyone is chronoed and everyone knows when and where the fire zones and mask off and barrel condom zones are. Saftey first fun second.

Rogue ball around here has grown 10x what it was. All those new players are buying gear and upgrading markers and shooting paintballs.

That has to be good for the sport.

Zero

[Conversekidz]

Sorry if I came off as trying to knock down what havok was saying, I wasn't intending on doing that. I think I am feeling that "renegade" paintball is getting a bad wrap, its the same thing that happens to any sport, throw in a couple of bad players and then the whole sport is label as a negative. Look at basketball, everyone thinks basketball is full of convics and attackers now because of all the on court fist fights.


I know for my group that plays renegade, we play on private land, that we are allowed to be playing on. We all have our guns cronoed (we play at 280) and there are set rules oh fire zones and things like that.

I actually feel that renegade games with my friends are safer than games that I have played with at local fields
1: Everyone follows the rules to a T, because its a group of friends playing together.
2: Barrel plugs are used at all times when gun is not in play, If i got a dollar for every time I heard a ref yell plug check in the staging area I could have my new angel right now.
3: Lots of noobs play at the local fields, so we have people taking off their masks while they are play, and other things like that. One case in point someone started talking to me, I turned around and there is an unplugged barrel pointing up my mask cause the kid at the field didn't understand the whole concept of barrel plug in the staging area, and point your barrel at the ground.

[MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata]

The fact is if you are playing on your own property, away from any people who might come by its fine.

But most will be playing in some forest preserve, or other enviroment.

And this can lead to accidental shooting of people just walking by, and these shooting go very well lead to serious injury if they shot hit someone in the face.

[Conversekidz]

The fact is if you are playing on your own property, away from any people who might come by its fine.

But most will be playing in some forest preserve, or other enviroment.

And this can lead to accidental shooting of people just walking by, and these shooting go very well lead to serious injury if they shot hit someone in the face.

thats just dumb....playing on property that is not your own.

[xXHavokXx]

thats just dumb....playing on property that is not your own.

I concur.

Where in NorCal do you play CK?

[Conversekidz]

When I played actively, that was in 99 (i've been out of the sport for a while ) I played at Bearcreek paintball, and TAG before it moved. I played from time to time up at Maire sp? Island up in Valleo, but I don't think they are around anymore. Use to play a lot of indoor ball at ActionZone (which is no longer around).

Right now I am playing at RAP, which is close combat indoor ball. You can rent the new Rap4 guns there.

Renegade ball is played in Lodi, or Santa Cruz, but it hasn't happened for a while due to a number of reasons.

[xXHavokXx]

Yeah tiems have changed. Most fields are BYOP and pretty decent prices. If you have a scuba you can get away with 15 bucks for a day of play.

[Conversekidz]

Yea I looked around, It looks like I could play for cheaper. RAP requires you to use their paint, which is lame, but a case is 45, which isn't to bad. once I get use to playing more i will start going out to other fields, I just need to get use to playing again and not getting shot so much

[SCpoloRicker]

Welcome to AO!

We have a pretty solid group of guys that play together here in Nor-Cal. I'm sure you can find some nice fields to play at. For example, TAGs Hollster field Sunday next week?? I'm half planning, look for a G2G post soon.

By the by, whereabouts in Nor-Cal do you live?

/End hijack

Renegade: I play on private land occasionaly in the Fremont Hills and also * in South S.J.. Fun, but lacking in chrono safety often, and mask/barrel plug standards.

One Exception is pump day at WharfRat and FirePro's hosting. Netting, chronos and plug/mask enforcement.

I'd love to play with players wiling to follow safety rules. In renegade situations, all too often, peoples standards drop.

Ricker

[NewMagMan21]

Well renegade paintball in my opinion great fun and for me a much better way to play. In the 3 yrs I've played paintball (I must confess) I have never played at an actual course. For the first year we played at friends houses and totally unregulated. Then I bought a chrono with my Christmas money and we played at safe speeds but mask rules weren't enforced enough and then I joined a team with some friends and then were taught how to play with a lot more safely. Then our coach had to go to Iraq so we just crack down on our friends for safety.
I live near Portland, Oregon and there are no BYOP courses until you want to drive 200 miles. But the prices are &*%$# insane the cheapest price is $80-90 a case and a $15 feild fee. So for me "Rogue paintball is a much better way to go.

[Rokudon]

you know i swear its called outlaw ball... but i could be wrong... but anyways, i guess if enough safeties were impllemented, it would be somewhat OK, but you'd need some serious safety cover for everyone in the neightborhood that passes by. eventuallly some kids are going to do this and shoot someone's eye out... so if you do play, i'd say, do the best you can to protect the innocent peopel walking by, or this sport's gonna nosedive....

[NewMagMan21]

you know i swear its called outlaw ball... but i could be wrong... but anyways, i guess if enough safeties were impllemented, it would be somewhat OK, but you'd need some serious safety cover for everyone in the neightborhood that passes by. eventuallly some kids are going to do this and shoot someone's eye out... so if you do play, i'd say, do the best you can to protect the innocent peopel walking by, or this sport's gonna nosedive....

I've heard it outlaw ball also.
But we play in a secluded place out in a cleared out patch of wooded area which has been turned into a speedball course. We also have a deadbox which doubles as a safe zone. And we dont tolerate masks off during a time when markers are hot so its pretty well run for an outlaw/ rogue/ renagade paintball