Emag Xtreme mill designs/concepts

[deded]

Yeah, I see what you're saying... but I'm hoping AGD will mill some warped modular feeds, too.

And by the time these come out to the general public, maybe vert feed will be less of a standard... but we'll see.

[manike]

Dave, I think that is fantastic and very, very possible...

You've taken great thought to work from the original and create a design which is feasable. Especially the way you have even feathered out from the hose slot into the shaped milling. You've shown that you understand you can't mill too deep into such an area because it would break through. Excellent. You've also not tried to create shapes where there was no material before or that are very difficult or costly to machine. Others who will be creating design ideas take heed!

We could mill the modules to look like that and considering how stunning that design idea is I think it would be worth it. I was holding off from milling modules as it is very hard to then later change or use a different module. I would need to leave a little more uncut around the module to ensure it wouldn't break through and so we could machine already manufactured modules...

Could you please continue your theme onto an original square style battery pack.

manike

[manike]

I keep looking at this because I like it a lot.

One thing we couldn't do is mill the extra bulge in front of the bottom of the trigger because we would need to put material back above the curved bit... not possible.

The rest though is growing and growing on me

manike

[manike]

Originally posted by headcase
Yes it looks good, but the chances are it won't happen. The big reason is that the coolest part of the design, the "x" over the breech, would be removable and it only works with the vert feed. If you replaced the breach with a warp breach suddenly the flowing lines he worked so hard to create disapear. This is why in the first two milled extremes the breach isn't milled at all. The "x" is cool but it has to be moved back on the the rear part of the body. Everyone should remember that the breech in all likely hood won't be milled at all.

Headcase your post shows really good practical thinking. But I like that design so much I'm thinking it would be worth it to not have quite the same choice/ease of swapping in modules.

The 'X' would need to centre around the ball detent which is maybe not in quite as good a location for the centre of the 'X' as shown in that picture and I could make a warp module take the curves and then flow them back in and out on the feed side... so you would still be able to have vert or warp...

Dave if you can design this onto one of the images I posted in the other thread and it still works as well then I will make this one.

Oh and come up with something for the battery pack...

To others, the Extreme project and custom milling project is not being run in the USA by Tom but in the UK by John and Jackie Sosta of AGD Europe. Along with help from John Bonich (Quantum Products) and myself (Tebis CAD/CAM). It's a shame they aren't being recognised for their hard work and effort. If you want to see certain designs then they are the ones to persuade.

manike

[Rynoboy06]

Much coolness. I wanna see the beauty of one of these totally realized, the the two-color concept seems fresh and cool, though I would want a little darker color than the standard grey finish. Here's a new one for the next hot-off-the-press extreme post.

[headcase]

Originally posted by Rynoboy06
Much coolness. I wanna see the beauty of one of these totally realized, the the two-color concept seems fresh and cool, though I would want a little darker color than the standard grey finish. Here's a new one for the next hot-off-the-press extreme post.

Yes they would be cool, don't think that is what Dave was after. I believe that the darker areas are the areas that are to be milled and there fore lower, while the light areas are raised. The 2 color concept while cool, would be expensive to do. I mean the KAPP flame cocker body goes for 900 by it's self(body, front block, rear block, asa)

[headcase]

Originally posted by manike


Headcase your post shows really good practical thinking.

Wow, that is something I don't get alot!

But I like that design so much I'm thinking it would be worth it to not have quite the same choice/ease of swapping in modules.

I like the design as well, It's just I'LL be using a warp so I get left out

The 'X' would need to centre around the ball detent which is maybe not in quite as good a location for the centre of the 'X' as shown in that picture and I could make a warp module take the curves and then flow them back in and out on the feed side... so you would still be able to have vert or warp...

If this is possible, great, I was just thinking that this still needs to say at least a little cost effective.
Someone mentioned higher up, just have the "x" on one side of the warp modules, and that would be fine with me, because like it was pointed out, the left side of my marker is covered by the warp/hopper anyway.

To others, the Extreme project and custom milling project is not being run in the USA by Tom but in the UK by John and Jackie Sosta of AGD Europe. Along with help from John Bonich (Quantum Products) and myself (Tebis CAD/CAM). It's a shame they aren't being recognised for their hard work and effort. If you want to see certain designs then they are the ones to persuade.

Thank you everyone at AGDE and everyone else involved in this project

[Smokee_2_7]

Dave,

first off, good job on the drawing. If this were to be produced, I would hold off on the sfl, and get one of these.

Manike,

Here's an idea you might want to consider. In reference to the potential problem with interchanging modules and the millwork matching up, what if you could sell the marker with both the vert feed, and a warp feed module. This way the millwork could be done on the modules with them in the 'matching' marker, and would be eaiser to match up the lines, ect. sure, on a warp right module you will loose the 'x', but perhaps it could be re-located on that module- - - centered around the ball detent on the other side, or even on top. Im sure that the people paying for one of these beauties wouldnt complain over a little more cash- - if that meant having two modules that fit flawlessly into the 'guns millwork. Additionally, you could produce these in a vert and warp right combo (considering most of us are right-handed) or could do a warp left on request.

[apache]

Hint to designers: surf to http://www.bmezine.com or some other tattoo site. You could get some ideas from eg. tribal tattoos.

[gmag]

I like it. It could give the mag family a different perception, rather than the cylindrical name tag it often recieves.

[Dave]

Wow, didn't know it would get this much response, thanks guys.

Manike-Also thanks for your post. I am not too good at photoshop, decent, but I can't produce things in PS that I can with drawing, it just comes natural to me. Here is what I did to make that picture I drew of the X-Mag. I took the large photo that AGD posted with the 2nd design with the valve in it, saved it to my comp, blew it up a little, printed it, outlined the pattern with a black pen, then traced it. Thats how I knew my limits, but other than inside those lines, anything went! I have got another design too, and could possibly make several more. I just liked the idea of having the X somewhere on the gun. I also thought about the breech being a warp feed breach and it would be 100% capable with this mill. I will draw some pictures of this one with a warp breech on it.

Also, I know you are limited with the grip frame and I know you can't do the little thumb grip inside the guard, but I kinda wanted to see it in the drawing

Also, the battery pack in that drawing was an afterthought. I will make a real one when I post some more pictures...I've got lots o' ideas.

-Dave

[manike]

Dave, I look forward to seeing it eagerly! Once you come up with a satisfactory design maybe you could do it over some drawings of the extreme from the image thread. This will realy help transfering it into my cad system, it's just to make scale easier.

Hand drawings on prints of those images will be perfect, you can either scan them and electronically send them to me, or we can work out a post system.

I really do like your design.

manike

[xmetal2001]

WOW! Thats Awesome!

I would definatly consider getting one of those.

For some reason it reminds me of a DYE Invision Mask. I don't know why, it just does.

[Dave]

Here is a second one I did today. Looking at it, it looks kinda alienish just in the drawing, but all the main parts of the mill sticking up are really kinda flat-in this drawing they look huge and bulging, which isn't the case. Anyway, I kept most of the grip frame intact, except for one groove at the top and rounded out the finger position behind the trigger. In the real milling, it looked to me kinda like a knocked out tooth, so I smoothed it out a bit. I haven't had time to work on batteries yet...I'll try and get a few more designs up, and whatever one is the best I will focus on. Maybe I will do this one again, but more simplified, so it won't look so alienish, which was not the intent. Anyway, enjoy!

-Dave

[Dave]

oh yeah, and I cut the trigger more rounded on the face to it would be more comfortable to grip with a finger.

-Dave