AGD at a crossroad.. where do you want it to go?

[LONEWOLFOO1]

I am a new customer i just ordered a tac one today 2/28/25 why not the electo's or even a angel? i need something rugged as few moveing parts as possible. i want the gun to be lite i want to play. not work on my gun i want a small profile as possible. no glam no show i need my marker to shoot consitent and shoot as far as possible. i own a bm2k i love it but i was tired off adjusting this and that. lpr, hpr,pds soleniod electronics to many people selling parts for the gun i would not know who makes good parts or bad ones. i just want to shoot the dam gun. i want something reliable out the box i don't want to keep upgrading just to be with the comp. ive done a lot of reading on these forums and i notice that a lot of the old guys don't like change to rec ball. change is comeing in the paintball world through scenrio rec ball. i am 27 years old with a wife and kid i would not blow $1200 on a paintball gun, and if i did it should shoot further than any other gun but this in not the case all it does is offer more speed i don't need speed i need shot to shot reailbilty. my bm2k could not offer that i hope the tac one can.

as for idea the tac one has some rails make some use of them and use them to make a sling i hate putting my gun down on the table i want my gun on me at alll times.

i hope to see you guys on the field soon!!!

keep doing what you are doing at agd you don't change make real good products and people would come it just takes time.

[jewie27]

I am a new customer i just ordered a tac one today 2/28/25 why not the electo's or even a angel? i need something rugged as few moveing parts as possible. i want the gun to be lite i want to play. not work on my gun i want a small profile as possible. no glam no show i need my marker to shoot consitent and shoot as far as possible. i own a bm2k i love it but i was tired off adjusting this and that. lpr, hpr,pds soleniod electronics to many people selling parts for the gun i would not know who makes good parts or bad ones. i just want to shoot the dam gun. i want something reliable out the box i don't want to keep upgrading just to be with the comp. ive done a lot of reading on these forums and i notice that a lot of the old guys don't like change to rec ball. change is comeing in the paintball world through scenrio rec ball. i am 27 years old with a wife and kid i would not blow $1200 on a paintball gun, and if i did it should shoot further than any other gun but this in not the case all it does is offer more speed i don't need speed i need shot to shot reailbilty. my bm2k could not offer that i hope the tac one can.

as for idea the tac one has some rails make some use of them and use them to make a sling i hate putting my gun down on the table i want my gun on me at alll times.

i hope to see you guys on the field soon!!!

keep doing what you are doing at agd you don't change make real good products and people would come it just takes time.

Welcome to AO and congrats on owning your first AGD product. I guarantee you will not be dissapointed. You probably won't ever have to use a squeegee on the field again, thanks to Level 10.

You won't have to worry about problems with lpr's or anything like that because 'Mag valves have built in regulators. In fact, the only paintball valves in the world to have built in regulators. It's an old school invention from the early 90's and still survives to this day.

Let us know how it works for you.

[jewie27]

My advertising idea is for AGD to give out 1 free license plate frame and 1 free bumper sticker to all AO members. Make it a one time deal.

When you drive your car around, especially to the fields, a lot of people will see AGD on the back of your car/truck.

Free license plate frames has been a deal that my sporting goods company have been doing for over 10 years. It works great.


As far as an entry level 'Mag, that might be a good idea. It's what WGP has already done with Trilogy Autocockers.

They could make the marker around $350 or less and put on these parts:

-A no rise colored ULE body of your choice. (not chord body with milling because it would bring the price up)

-standard automag valve

-AGD gas-thru foregrip

-drop foward or rail option

-Dye Xcel barrel

-Intelliframe

I know you can build your own like this, but it would be cheaper for the consumer to buy a mass produced gun.

What do you guys think of this? Any suggestions? We just need to get the word out that AGD is here to stay. Get new players looking at AGD instead of WGP or Kingmann or Tippmann.

[LONEWOLFOO1]

People are looking at agd just the older people you can not convince a kid to agd no matter how hard you try. kids want what the pros are using and they want the crazy colors unbelviable rate of fire. because they have expendable income (or there parents) kids want accs regardless of performance. agd is for the guy that may come out occasional to play use more skills than firepower. that a gun can sit for 6 months and work after not being used. not ramping boards just good old mechanic trigger i can talk about electrics all day and they serve their purpose they are great on speed ball fields but i think the tac one could compete weight has always been a issue in paintball and i hope the tac one is lighter than the bm2k.

[Baby Huey]

New To AGD

Hey. I can give you the other side of this discussion. I am a speedball player (w/ a '03 Shocker that I have about $1,200 into, I also have the wife and 2 1/2 year old) and I joined a scenerio team (my neigbors). I needed a gun for if it rains and for at night. The guys on the team I am on (Team Trauma MV) have Mags and another scenerio player recommended it as well. I have been looking at them and I am either ordering the Tac 1 or RPG Paradign from themagsmith.com. I am impressed and cannot wait to get my gun and start the process of getting it just right. The problem is that there is a market of people like me that spend an obscene amount of money on their PB habit (I am glad that my wife has no idea!) and up until two weeks ago I had never heard of AGD. In my unqualified opinion, they need to market better and like another post stated have gear with the name on it (and they can make money off that) so that people know who they are. I understand that the looks are not what makes the gun, but you need to have a sexy gun to sell to the masses. Just my thoughts. I will have my gun soon so I will have plenty of questions for you all. God Bless.

Baby Huey

[jewie27]

Hey. I can give you the other side of this discussion. I am a speedball player (w/ a '03 Shocker that I have about $1,200 into, I also have the wife and 2 1/2 year old) and I joined a scenerio team (my neigbors). I needed a gun for if it rains and for at night. The guys on the team I am on (Team Trauma MV) have Mags and another scenerio player recommended it as well. I have been looking at them and I am either ordering the Tac 1 or RPG Paradign from themagsmith.com. I am impressed and cannot wait to get my gun and start the process of getting it just right. The problem is that there is a market of people like me that spend an obscene amount of money on their PB habit (I am glad that my wife has no idea!) and up until two weeks ago I had never heard of AGD. In my unqualified opinion, they need to market better and like another post stated have gear with the name on it (and they can make money off that) so that people know who they are. I understand that the looks are not what makes the gun, but you need to have a sexy gun to sell to the masses. Just my thoughts. I will have my gun soon so I will have plenty of questions for you all. God Bless.

Baby Huey

So you mean you never heard of the 68 Automag Classic before? Is the marketing that horrible?

Just asking.

Have fun with your Tac-One, AGD makes great gear. I've been a Mag owner for 5 years and always will be.

[matt-o]

I just got back from the Grand Finale at Waynes World in Ocala, Florida this past weekend. There were a ton of mag shooters there and most of them I talked to had no idea about AO. Something definitely needs to be done to get the word out about AGD and the variety of new parts that are available.

When it comes to moving things like the reg your still maintaining the weight just moving it to a new location. How about milling on the reg itself instead of the standard cylinder design. Anything to change the look and the image more in line with what players are looking for. Working with PTP to develop and release a pneu fram would be great and would give the customers even more variety. Even the EBlade idea sounds good. The problem is that Tom has developed the VW Beetle of the paintball industry. Its almost too good to change and far too reliable.

how can you own a mag and not know anything about AO? my level 10 kit came with some membersip card to ao

[ApexAZ]

I'm kinda new to paintball, but my friend Gibby pretty much turned me on to AGD

I hope they stick around. I really like my ULE RT.

[Baby Huey]

Heard of it here

Hey. I heard of it in the last few days reading posts here. Been in PB (speedball) for 8 months and going to my second scenerio in VA in about 4 weeks. I just ordered (like 20 minutes ago) the RPG Paradigm w/ ULT upgrade and a Viper Trigger. I was in the market for a gun for my wife and I was going to get another Shocker. But my the captain of the team I am on has a mag and said that I should have another gun in case it rains (as my shocker would be useless). I had heard of Mags but never heard the right thing to spark interest. I am glad I did now, after reading about them and asking a ton of questions (and I mean a ton) I cannot wait to get my gun. Have a good night.

Baby Huey

[LONEWOLFOO1]

I honestly feel that people don't do any foot work when it comes to purchasing guns they go to the local field or store and see whats for sell or see what most people are playing. i always made to effort to know as much as i can before i go purchase equipment. double stack tube desingn is going to obsulete sooner or later.

let me tell you guys this if agd were to sell the patent for there gun operateing system how quick other gun companys would market it as a new thing. they can't compete with agd design so they stick to double stack tube design. come on guys if a product is lighter smaller profile and no owns copy that okay.... can anybody say lawsuit. if agd does go way of the retirement agd will sell there patent and those guys would market it as some new high level design remember this post.

i feel that agd has supior design all the components are compact and together can nlike other guns in the market where they have multiple parts. no thank you i chose compact.