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  • bballe336
    Registered User
    • Aug 2004
    • 297

    #1

    noob question

    ok since everyone i ask doesnt answer i have to make a thread about it. ok my question is what are the problems that 4.0+ software causes? and if there are problems what is agd dojng about them?
  • DiSoRdeR
    Pump enthusiast
    • Jul 2003
    • 1767

    #2
    If I remember right they have problems which make them full auto, I do not know for sure. Since they were unsafe they stoped selling 4.0's and are flashing them back down.

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    • ej_y4
      highschool paintball coach
      • May 2003
      • 291

      #3
      ya 4.0 caused full auto on some guns. The only time you could have got your gun flashed with 4.0 was at the norcal vs socal game last jan. People didnt chatch it tell the end of the day. On one of the gun i saw, after you pulled the trigger 3 times and let go it would go full auto on its own. You had the tap the trigger again to get it to stop.
      -Jr/High school paintball coach

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      • Miscue
        Super Moderator

        • Oct 2000
        • 7105

        #4
        Originally posted by bballe336
        ok since everyone i ask doesnt answer i have to make a thread about it. ok my question is what are the problems that 4.0+ software causes? and if there are problems what is agd dojng about them?
        Well, the software is pretty much dead because of the safety issues. It's been taken as far as it will go, and no further work will be put into it. There are unresolveable hardware problems that the software cannot address without a performance hit. It's tuned to the edge of not working correctly.

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        • Miscue
          Super Moderator

          • Oct 2000
          • 7105

          #5
          Originally posted by DiSoRdeR
          If I remember right they have problems which make them full auto, I do not know for sure. Since they were unsafe they stoped selling 4.0's and are flashing them back down.
          It was never sold that way - only a handful of people got it at the norcal vs socal event. Otherwise it's never been officially released to the general public.

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          • bballe336
            Registered User
            • Aug 2004
            • 297

            #6
            ok thanks guys but one more question. will there be new software released anytime soon?

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            • emagballa560
              Got Emag? I dont...Dm4 :)
              • Aug 2004
              • 1093

              #7
              Originally posted by bballe336
              ok thanks guys but one more question. will there be new software released anytime soon?
              I sont think so becasue they stop making electro markers , so I doubt they will make something besides the 3.2 which is out know.

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              • Battlewear
                Team Vexed
                • Jun 2004
                • 168

                #8
                Emag 4.0 Software? A chance for it to see day light??

                Originally posted by Miscue
                Well, the software is pretty much dead because of the safety issues. It's been taken as far as it will go, and no further work will be put into it. There are unresolveable hardware problems that the software cannot address without a performance hit. It's tuned to the edge of not working correctly.
                Hey there..

                Ok, I thought I had read that the guy working on the software (and heck if I can remember his name) had said that he believed he had solved the problem with the 4.0 software?, had done numerous tests with it and it worked fine and as far as he was concerned it was good to go... BUT at that time it was owned by Tom Kaye and Tom felt that it should not be released due to the fact that it still MIGHT go full auto (understandable from Tom's point of view).

                Now the question I have is (and No, I do not own a Emag), Will Dave Zupe now consider releasing the 4.0 software now that I would guess he would own it? Of course I understand that Tom didnt want it released and I respect that, but could there of been underlying factors such as the descision to retire that could of stopped the sale? Basically did Tom say no because he didnt want to have the 4.0 software cause any issues during the dealings with Mr. Zupe?? Of course at the same time I also understand that Tom didnt feel it was safe and that could be that!! No other reason... But who is to say except Tom him self.. I'll shall not judge!! I am just asking the base question is all

                Just a open thought about the 4.0 software.
                Again, I do not own an emag (would love to!!!!) but I just can not afford the lowers for one LOL... Now building a spyder mag MIGHT be possible, might be able to get a whole trigger frame and board for the cost of the Emag board!!

                Just something for people to question and think about
                Last edited by Battlewear; 12-14-2004, 12:19 PM.
                :cool:

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                • Miscue
                  Super Moderator

                  • Oct 2000
                  • 7105

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Battlewear
                  Hey there..

                  Ok, I thought I had read that the guy working on the software (and heck if I can remember his name) had said that he believed he had solved the problem with the 4.0 software?, had done numerous tests with it and it worked fine and as far as he was concerned it was good to go... BUT at that time it was owned by Tom Kaye and Tom felt that it should not be released due to the fact that it still MIGHT go full auto (understandable from Tom's point of view).

                  Now the question I have is (and No, I do not own a Emag), Will Dave Zupe now consider releasing the 4.0 software now that I would guess he would own it? Of course I understand that Tom didnt want it released and I respect that, but could there of been underlying factors such as the descision to retire that could of stopped the sale? Basically did Tom say no because he didnt want to have the 4.0 software cause any issues during the dealings with Mr. Zupe?? Of course at the same time I also understand that Tom didnt feel it was safe and that could be that!! No other reason... But who is to say except Tom him self.. I'll shall not judge!! I am just asking the base question is all

                  Just a open thought about the 4.0 software.
                  Again, I do not own an emag (would love to!!!!) but I just can not afford the lowers for one LOL... Now building a spyder mag MIGHT be possible, might be able to get a whole trigger frame and board for the cost of the Emag board!!

                  Just something for people to question and think about
                  Well, the guy that wrote it believed the problem was solved but found a possible counter-example. Although, it did show promise - it possibly did not solve the problem.

                  As far as the rest goes... dunno. It's AGD's software - they own it and can do whatever they want.

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                  • bballe336
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 297

                    #10
                    well i hope some new software comes out becuase i will be getting an emag very soon. maybe tuna will make some software?

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                    • Miscue
                      Super Moderator

                      • Oct 2000
                      • 7105

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bballe336
                      well i hope some new software comes out becuase i will be getting an emag very soon. maybe tuna will make some software?
                      Probably not - I don't think he writes software. Who would want to anyway?

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                      • Battlewear
                        Team Vexed
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 168

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Miscue
                        Probably not - I don't think he writes software. Who would want to anyway?
                        LOL ok, there is the fella who I was thinking of MISCUE!

                        Miscue, is that correct? the 4.0 ended up having a relapes of sorts? Just currious..

                        Also, do you know what Mr. Zupe's take on the software is? Is he in favor of keeping the emag going or following the same path that Tom was laying down?
                        :cool:

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                        Team Sponsor - Pioneer Chrysler Jeep in Wetaskiwin
                        Position: Back Player
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                        Level 10 Anit-chop bolt & Level 7 Valve
                        Red Gas Through Grip
                        Rogue 15* ASA
                        Rogue Snatch Grip
                        Marksman Dropforward/Shoulder stock
                        134/3000 AIR!!! LOOK OUT, Enough to SHOOT A CASE! LOL!
                        :shooting:
                        Maybe Not so Soon, But coming! :):
                        ULE body or Custom Scorpion Body

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                        • SCpoloRicker
                          HA HA I'm custom!!1
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 4375

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Miscue
                          Probably not - I don't think he writes software. Who would want to anyway?
                          Ping-pong Ninjas ?!?

                          I doubt 4.0, or 4.01/xx/new release will come about. Just use hybrid mode on 3.2, and you'll be fine.
                          God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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                          • SlartyBartFast
                            The Flying Scotsman
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 2940

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Miscue
                            Probably not - I don't think he writes software. Who would want to anyway?
                            I was thinking (I know, dangerous) and figured why not just change the software to read 3.3?

                            Heck, there's enough clueless PBers wanting the latest thing without any understanding of what the latest thing is or what it actually does.

                            You might not be selling to a large percentage of Emag owners once you get to 3.9, but it'll be a fun and profitable ride.

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