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  • SuiciDal Sn Y p ER
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    • Apr 2003
    • 3814

    #1

    Posers

    I've been noticing a lot of kids lately wearing brand new jerseys, shooting high end markers, and trying to act like pricks to the beginners. Why does this happen? Is it because they see "pros" using high end markers, swearing their behinds off, and always disputing everything? What is it that makes these new players act like complete jackbutts to everyone else they see that they view to be "inferior" to them? Then once they find out "Oh! You're sponsored?" They start acting all nice and hang around you and try to be your friend.

    What ever happend to the "i'm gonna work my way up the ladder, play good and i'll be noticed" mindset? I know some people still have it but the majority of the newer wannabe tourny players are in the "i want free paintballs and a sponsor so i can brag to everyone else and bash on other players for having to pay full price for all their gear"

    Whatever it is that's making the newer players act like this, we need to make it stop. Because it's getting very annoying and these are the kinda players that scare away all of the good decent people that want to get into paintball
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  • Boski51
    SAC OLD BOYS (SOB's)
    • Nov 2004
    • 332

    #2
    Because those kind of paintball players are just kids that have no frame of reference. These are the kind of kids that the mom and dad bought the high end paintslinger and mom and dad drives them to the field and mom and dad get to be proud when JR tells them his war story of lighting up some little kid noob.

    Makes the mom and dad beam with pride! Make the little kid play something else. Makes me what to play stock class had have fun again playing paintball....

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    • FallNAngel
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      • Apr 2003
      • 1076

      #3
      Just light them up and laugh if they're going to be a jerk. You want to play paintball? Sounds good, I can do that. Want to be a jerk to other people... I can do that too.
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      • White_Noise
        Element *608*
        • Jul 2003
        • 1295

        #4
        my theory is if little kids want to talk trash and have expensive guns, then they need to learn how it is to play with experienced people. usually ending up with them getting bunkered or lit from across the field.

        if theyre gonna talk the talk, theyd better walk the walk, or im gonna send um to their parents crying.

        i also like to use these terms in reference to people like that:
        they need to either put up or shut up
        or better suited for paintball would be the prase:
        prove it and shoot it.

        kids who talk trash deserve to get put in their place in my thinking. and my way of doing that is to just take it to the field.
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        • Carbon
          Word!
          • Jan 2003
          • 1589

          #5
          Noticing them lately?

          Noticing them is only the first step man. There will alway be posers in any kind of a bastardized sport. The less the diffcult the sport the higher frequency of posers. I used to get kinda irked about it but, then over time i realize its that kinda behavior is changable.

          recognizing an problem is one thing, doing something about it is another.

          Then once they find out "Oh! You're sponsored?" They start acting all nice and hang around you and try to be your friend.
          take advantage of that! you in essence, have been handed the gift of teaching my man, cheesy as it sounds. Show them what good sportmanship is. Show them it is truly the player and not the gun.

          "i'm gonna work my way up the ladder, play good and i'll be noticed"
          i suppose vanity can get you places too. To me the more appropriate mindset is "play your heart out and everthing will fall into place"

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          • Tyger
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            • Oct 2002
            • 1210

            #6
            You know, I want to detail a little more than just a "Oh, you've only noticed it now?" kind of thing.

            Paintball has no "ladder" to work up. Do you know how many players are in the pros due only to being a cult of personality? (not as many as there USED to be, but they're still out there) Do you know how many COMPANIES are SOLELY image based and run? There is no "pop warner paintball". There is no way to work up the system other than "You show up, you know what you're doing and we like you, wanna play for us?" And before people start saying that there's a system, there isn't. Any ranking is based SOLELY on who you know, and who knows you. Period. Show me your player statistics and your "AAA Farm league" then I'll begin to conceed the point. Some of the best players are overlooked because nobody knows who they are. It's all about self-hyping, or having people to hype you. If you don't believe me, we'll talk next game and I'll show you what I'm talkign about.

            So in a game based on "who looks like they're good", you'll see kids hanging off the guys who look sponsored, and trying to intimidate or impress those who don't. It's about appearances more than skills. Snyper, do I have to remind you about Badlands last winter, when I had people looking at me like I was a "noob" because I wore BDU's and shot an all black gun? They don't know me, they don't know who I am, so therefore I know nothing about playing paintball, let alone how to play a speedball field or a snake bunker. However, the guys in the brand new jerseys, well THEY are wearing jerseys! They must be better, because they know about paintball "garb". And everyone knows you. "the nutcase with the dog in his shorts."

            So it shouldn't surprise you when people try to impress, intimidate or suck up, based solely on looks. It's been like that when I remember the "pros" wearing "Tiger Stripe Gear" or "Advantage jammies". It hasn't changed. Now it's easier to call them by name. And in some cases, these self-appointed pro guys just "Can't take the time" to help out a kid who wants to get better, other than say "Watch and learn." It doesn't start with the new guys, it starts with the people being looked up to.

            -Tyger
            Last edited by Tyger; 12-20-2004, 04:43 AM. Reason: adding more to my post, and I don't want to make a new post to do so.


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            • SuiciDal Sn Y p ER
              Registered User
              • Apr 2003
              • 3814

              #7
              Originally posted by FallNAngel
              Just light them up and laugh if they're going to be a jerk. You want to play paintball? Sounds good, I can do that. Want to be a jerk to other people... I can do that too.
              Couldn't lite them up, the kids refused to play against us.

              Originally posted by Tyger
              "the nutcase with the dog in his shorts."
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              hmm...yea actually doing that did help me out in the long run But i havn't worn that thing in ages
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              • Wheelman
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                • Oct 2001
                • 1672

                #8
                I still blame Smart Parts......and rich parents.



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                • rkjunior303
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                  • May 2003
                  • 4029

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SuiciDal Sn Y p ER
                  Couldn't lite them up, the kids refused to play against us.

                  There are kids like that at my local field, Fox4.. they come down, bust out all their gear, throw their mask on their head backwards, walking around with their DM4, etc yet I never see them in a game except maybe at the end of the day. I just laugh.. Just kids trying to 'be cool' and 'belong' within a certain clique.. Not that big of a difference, compared to someone trying to be a part of a certain group in school..

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                  • Lohman446
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                    • Jun 2003
                    • 9315

                    #10
                    Tigers right on this - I play way out of the league of my ability, mostly because my team is exceptionally good. If we are judging only on ability I'm there for an unpredictability, I'm not good enough to play a "straight" game and do well - so I tend to do some odd stuff. Taking the left snake from the right stand up on a regular basis tends to keep peoples attention towards me a bit more and my team then mows them.

                    When it comes down to it though I am easily the worst player on my team... I know that. Somehow though theres some culture thing where I can switch teams at any point I wanted, move "up" in teams etc. I I'm not into the Im sponsored screaming, cussing thing. I don't argue, I have told a ref I thought he made an error before, but I do not argue. I seldom even wear a jersey or my Dye gear at all - I am constantly (well normally) at the field on the weekends, I'm there early on Sundays setting things up, and often one of the last to leave. I pay for my own things at extremely good deals because I help out around the field and I seldom ask to charge anything - my bill is paid 95% of the time when I leave. People get used to me being there, me playing... and it makes them think I am better than I am.

                    This is not complaints at all.. but if you think being on a team is based on ability alone and not attitude, you are far and away mistaken.
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                    • SAW
                      It's a trap!
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 846

                      #11
                      Originally posted by White_Noise
                      if theyre gonna talk the talk, theyd better walk the walk, or im gonna send um to their parents crying.

                      i also like to use these terms in reference to people like that:
                      they need to either put up or shut up
                      or better suited for paintball would be the prase:
                      prove it and shoot it.

                      kids who talk trash deserve to get put in their place in my thinking. and my way of doing that is to just take it to the field.
                      Exactly. If someone gives me crap off the field, they better be ready to back it up. I usually won't go out of my way to prove a point during recball, but I'll still light up the resident jerk if need be.
                      Back at this...

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                      • tony3
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                        • Feb 2003
                        • 3740

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Wheelman
                        I still blame Smart Parts......and rich parents.




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                        Ignorance at its best.

                        Snyper don't tell me you are talking about me

                        Snyper is referring to these 2 kids that were at the field yesterday doing nothing, because one of their guns didnt work. Tdonovan was using a phantom and snyper was using his sydarm. They were being jerks to them because they had pumps. They were being best of friends to me though because I had a timmy and had all my gear on. It was pretty funny, I slapped a 45rd loader on my timmy to save paint(90 a case, ouch). They were like, wow, what the hell are you doing.

                        Most kids that are like that are the kids that are just wannabee tourney players. They want to look cool to the people that aren't as good to them. Most good tourney players don't act like this. Those kids were just stupid. Nothing I hate more then people that take rec ball seriously.

                        Also, that was the most fun I have had playing in a long time with that 45rd loader.

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                        • RenagadeOfFunk
                          A.K.A FunK WanG
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 2302

                          #13
                          kind of ironic starting this threa Snyper don't you think ( )

                          I agree with tyger...thee is no "ladder" to go up...otherwise I would of started climbing it by now.

                          Paintball will be fun until everyone like AO'ers leave.

                          I have no respect for people that wipe PERIOD. Leave that stuff for the toilet
                          Last edited by RenagadeOfFunk; 12-20-2004, 12:57 PM.
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                          • Wheelman
                            Wickad Pissah!
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 1672

                            #14
                            Originally posted by tony3
                            Ignorance at its best.

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                            C'mon you acctially tiik that post seriosly, it was meant as a joke. I wanted a well thought out response but my brain is too tired to work right now, I'm going to bed.
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                            • tony3
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                              • Feb 2003
                              • 3740

                              #15
                              Sorry, can't tell jokes on the internet without a smiley. No hard feelings

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