Gen 2 Warp Feed Interest Level?

[brianlojeck]

inTHIS thread there is discussion of a Generation 2 Warp feed, which fits under the barrel like an AT-x loader or Cocker shroud.

Tom says he doesn't see enough interest based on the Gen 1 Warp Feed.

Personally, I think this would generate a lot more interest, because at first glance it sounds like a much better design!

My problem with the Gen1 Warp (and many others I've discussed it with) is the unbalance it puts on the gun. centering the warp would help this dramatically.

fixing this would certainly help the acceptance level of the product. I've seen a lot of people pick up a warp-fed gun, and immediatly decide they don't like it because of the torque. If they had stuck with it htey might grow to like it, but many won't give it a chance...

Any thoughts?

[Adrenaline_Junkie]

With the qloader out and that fixing any balancing issues i think the idea of a new warp feed would be a total waste of time. Most people that wanna place the loader anywhere else than above the gun use a qloader and it works great (no batteries either) and if they dont use that a Halo is more than good enough. If i recall correctly i think this subject has been brought up numerous times and although some people show interest, overall itd just be a waste of time and money.

[nirvana1234]

man i would pick one up...cant use a q-loader...backman + qloader=not good

[Adrenaline_Junkie]

You make a good point but wouldnt a loader big enought to hold clost to 200 paintballs be a little bulky on your gun and akward if it was under your barrel.

[GT]

dont excatly see the Q flying of shelves either...

[Lohman446]

With the qloader out and that fixing any balancing issues i think the idea of a new warp feed would be a total waste of time. Most people that wanna place the loader anywhere else than above the gun use a qloader and it works great (no batteries either) and if they dont use that a Halo is more than good enough. If i recall correctly i think this subject has been brought up numerous times and although some people show interest, overall itd just be a waste of time and money.

Not 100% true - I hated my q-laoder more than I hated my warp (I'm back to a blimp). The q-loader, while a great theory was very "finicky" to me - I shattered at least one pod when I was a wee bit frustrated wtih it... the spring flew halfway across the field if I recall. The loading issue is hard one to overcome (and yes I had rigged a halo to feed my spinny thing for the Q). The 100 round capacity and need to be empty to reload is another. The poor fit into most packs was an issue - there aer a lot of issues with the Q. I hopper integrated warp feed under the barrel or as the picture in the linked thread showed holds a lot of interest, and I would at least try it - yeh so I buy a lot of things to try.

[brianlojeck]

wow... Tom's posting a lot since he quit AGD. ;-)

I've copied the picture he references up above, I hadn't seen that when I started this thread. I like this placement even better then an under-barrel one...

[Lohman446]

wow... Tom's posting a lot since he quit AGD. ;-)

You did look at the date of TKs post right? Thats rhetorical

[BlackVCG]

With the advent of no-rise feed necks because of faster feeding loaders, warp feed and any other side loading mechanism is dead. You can play tight enough with the loader on the top so that if you get hit in the loader, you would have got hit in the head if it wasn't there. Also, the Warp is another thing for a tournament player to break on a slide, another thing to put a battery in and another thing to smack with your fist when it doesn't work right because of the rain and humidity at Mardi Gras.

With the ever increasing fast paced play taking over in the tourney scene, the Warp just becomes too cumbersome. Also, HALOs and Eggs are feeding fast enough that the speed of the Warp really doesn't matter anymore.

Despite all of that, whenever I decide to play with my E-Mag I will always play with it and the Warp setup I have on it. 18V Warp setup truely is the most reliable feeding setup and when I use that gun I play back and I can just lay paint all day long. When I play with my RT-Pro, however, I will always use it with a no-rise ULE body and Z-Board Egg. I still like the Warp, but the loader technology and how it has changed the gun configuration with low feednecks has all but eliminated the benefits of the Warp.

[Gunga]

With the advent of no-rise feed necks because of faster feeding loaders, warp feed and any other side loading mechanism is dead. You can play tight enough with the loader on the top so that if you get hit in the loader, you would have got hit in the head if it wasn't there.

I still like the Warp, but the loader technology and how it has changed the gun configuration with low feednecks has all but eliminated the benefits of the Warp.

Ehh...for me the warp is more of a wider field of vision thing rather than speed. Been playing with a warp so long that it annoys me to have that blimp blocking my field of view.

[luke]

Ehh...for me the warp is more of a wider field of vision thing rather than speed. Been playing with a warp so long that it annoys me to have that blimp blocking my field of view.

Ditto...

[Evil1]

The warp feed is a love/hate item. Some people swear by them and hate playing without them whereas some people downright despise them. I could never get used to a warp no matter what I did with it. I just couldn't get comfortable with it. I played paintball for so long with the loader on top that it just felt very out of place on all of my setups. For me it made the gun feel huge and heavy and it made me do stupid things like keep my head or knee sticking out for too long and getting lit up. The warp setup always made me hang my knee out real far whenever I crouched and came out of the left side of my bunker. And another point that Black VGC bought up was that the warp would malfunction when there was alot of humidity or moisture. I thought I was the only one that had that problem. My warps would go crazy or not work at all if it was real humid or really hot out. Mine didn't like the cold too much either.

[White_Noise]

i tried shooting a warp once, never really liked it. however ive seen many people who cant stand to use regular hoppers as well....to each his own.

my halo doesnt block my view, just have to learn how to shoot wihtout looking through your marker. my halo also hardly ever comes out of my bunker anymore with my playing style.

[Chronobreak]

bah bah bah whats a warp weigh? not much unles ur :coughweak

sure its slightly off balance but nothing thats gonna keep you from shooting striaght while
dragging your hand in a gyro spiral of death.

most of the weight is from the hopper and paint also added to the side

simple soulution use both hands to hold the gun....

really the q-loader stil doesnt seem useable to me. problems when paints low,filling probs blah blah balh
i know people disagree but total sales would say diff.

warps have probly sold somewhat steadily since their release but not at record speeds of course.

most poeple juts fear diff things.

il never shoot without a warp again unles i have to.

im interested in atleast seeing what this gen 2 warp would be. btw agd SHOULD NOT release another warp system w/out warp slugs

[bballe336]

i really dont see any need for a warp feed anymore. i own a few and they are great for rec ball. but when my team plays tournies its more trouble than its worth. i break them so easily off the break and when i slide the shell cracks and it falls off. and the speed simply isnt impressive anymore. my warp is modded to the max and wont pull, anything over 28bps. my intellifeed halo rips as i have said before as fast the guns delay. and with the predator board i use that is an indefinte amount of speed. as much as i liek the warp it no longer has any place in tournament paintball.