Of course tourny players (generally) dont see a need for a warp, what, with speed being king. The warp feed has a broader appeal than just the tourny circuit. We need to see product advancement OUTSIDE of the tourny scene. I love my warp, and would love to see a new streamlined model, perhaps with an integrated hopper. Bring it on!
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Thats what im thinkin. But then again if theyre happy with their warps why bother with this.Originally posted by WARPED1I think the only people to buy it, are the only few guys/gals here that have a warp feed already, sorry.
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I always wanted to see a Warp built into some kind of gun stock. Although it wouldnt be popular for tourney play, I think the scenerio players would love the realism of a rifle
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well i know that the appeal isnt just to tournament players but i do have to say i think anything thats not top mounted does get in the way. the warp tom shoed must some pretty strane hopper placment or watnot and i think if you really need somthing mounted to the siade the qloader is the way to go.
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Originally posted by Chronobreakbah bah bah whats a warp weigh? not much unles ur :coughweak
sure its slightly off balance but nothing thats gonna keep you from shooting striaght while
dragging your hand in a gyro spiral of death.
most of the weight is from the hopper and paint also added to the side
simple soulution use both hands to hold the gun....
really the q-loader stil doesnt seem useable to me. problems when paints low,filling probs blah blah balh
i know people disagree but total sales would say diff.
warps have probly sold somewhat steadily since their release but not at record speeds of course.
most poeple juts fear diff things.
il never shoot without a warp again unles i have to.
im interested in atleast seeing what this gen 2 warp would be. btw agd SHOULD NOT release another warp system w/out warp slugs
embargo backwards = o grab me
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look, you guys can claim all you want that if one came out, you would buy it, but i am assuming tom would need atleast 1000 confirmed sales before any one even considered putting it into production. Alot of you dont realize how many times people have clamored for something to be released, then when it was released, it didnt sell jack. who remembers the roller trigger?. tons sold on the first order of 100, but the second order didnt budge at all... funny how that works huh?.
y grip? its selling, but not nearly as well as people had promised to buy.
plus, no one would really buy it, lowrise and halos are all you really need. hopper hits? pshh its a mask hit you would have taken. funny how that works
Originally posted by Tom in reffrence to a post saying he acted like my dad...
"That's right!
WHO'S YOUR DADDY!!"
ALL QUIT AND NO GO!!! Team Icky Forest-Shatnerball 2003!!!
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sry i have to jump in yet again
the mask over hopper hit is BS
ask ANYONE with a warp of they are taking mask hits insted of hopper hits...chances are they arenot ex if they know how to take advantage of it.
have one eye peaking out and abarrel is FAR less than having the entire gun laying flat against the side of a bunker exposing half of it OR having a 4" 3" or so target ontop...
i had players YELLING at me to remove my warp because it was "unfair"
the warp is a great invention and i LVOE mine th way it is..however i do still wish it came
12 vlt ready and NO WIRES!!!!!!!!.
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i like the warp because i can set my tank up high on my shoulder so my gun is parallel to my face and i don't have a blimp up another foot, can't stand a gun that long without a warp, i had a q loader and they don't hold enough for my needs, and sometimes are just a pain in the booty. I don't see any problems with the current warp, i am getting a new one on saturday
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I hate this example, and it's always the first one cited. I remember the roller trigger. Tom told us the product was coming, and posted pics and a video of a slick setup--a normal-looking E-Mag trigger with a recessed wheel in the hump, positioned comfortably. He delieved a frankensteinian bolt-on kit that looked like a spinning trigger tumor, and was awkward to use, at best.Originally posted by magman007who remembers the roller trigger?. tons sold on the first order of 100, but the second order didnt budge at all... funny how that works huh?.
I'm shocked the original batch sold at all, frankly.Last edited by spantol; 02-23-2005, 03:30 PM.
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I love my warp feed, and yes I have a q-loader too. As far as I'm concerned there's room for a lot of improvement for both though. Don't even get me started on how much improvement is needed on the standard hooper style. It's obscene how much they charge for that garbage, the quality and qc is abysmal. It would be stellar if AGD would make a gen 2 warp, I don't see it happening, not enough interest. I'd be surprised if they just made some minor improvements on what they have now, even if it was just the 12v mod or the wire issues.
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I like that under-the-gun one, but it already feels like I have a small Japanese car on the back of my gun, and 200 PB's would make that issue worse. I would by the barrel-mounted one in a heartbeat. That would balance meh gun... It would be even cooler if :hint:AGD would pop out a few hella fast hoppers that are as reliable as Automags... (Halos are fast, but about as reliable as an Angel in a game of underwater paintball...) I would love the company more if they :emphasizehint: made a FORCE FEED, FAST, SALL, and LIGHT:/emphasizehint: hopper.:/hint:
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chronobreak, apparently you dont know how to shoot a hopper mounted marker then, because honestly, the only thing peering around my bunker, is my barrel, and a hopper lined up with my mask, about the same profile as a marker with a warp(the amount of mask showing)
You must not understand, that i owned a warp, and really saw no advantage to it over a halo. the profile thing, not a real difference, play tighter, the only advantage i saw to it, was more batteries, and more weight added to an already heavy e-mag(before ule stuff came out)
Spantol, im sorry to site this as an example, i remember the origional he showed us, but then he announced that it wasnt feasable, the ugly frankenstein version came out, people still clammored for em. tom sold the first batch really fast, the second batch? slow as molasses, i wouldnt be surprised if they still had a few kits lying around.
the warp, at its prime was a good invention, helped feed faster, 12 volts were able to keep up, but now? it is useless honestly. some stil play with it for a comfort level, or they truely like it, but it really doesnt seem to have its pourpose in balling any more. trust me, i still love agd products, but, the warp has seen its time
Originally posted by Tom in reffrence to a post saying he acted like my dad...
"That's right!
WHO'S YOUR DADDY!!"
ALL QUIT AND NO GO!!! Team Icky Forest-Shatnerball 2003!!!
www.tunamart.com
DONT SUPPORT HYPOCRITICAL MISSLEAD YOUTH, BOYCOTT HK
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Fair enough; I'm probably misremembering that part, being blinded by bitterness over the final product and all. Still, that particular situation is a great example of the first two laws of forum-based marketing: A pre-order is worth a thousand "Me too"s, and set expectations you can exceed.Originally posted by magman007Spantol, im sorry to site this as an example, i remember the origional he showed us, but then he announced that it wasnt feasable, the ugly frankenstein version came out, people still clammored for em. tom sold the first batch really fast, the second batch? slow as molasses, i wouldnt be surprised if they still had a few kits lying around.
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