What it would take to make a mag my primary gun again

[trains are bad]

For a tournament marker, yeah, as long as I can shoot all the paint I can carry efficiency is pointless, because I fill every game anyway in case I deverlop a leak. And I use a 68cu tank regardless because I like the size.

[Ken]

Viking

[hitech]

For efficiency how much paint do most of you actually carry on the field that a mag cant handle with a 68/4500 tank? Ive never once been playing a game that I ran out of air because I carried too much paint...

Remember, not everyone plays speedball, and not everyone has a 4500 psi tank. Better efficiency would be, well, better.

[GA Devil]

Remember, not everyone plays speedball, and not everyone has a 4500 psi tank. Better efficiency would be, well, better.

yes as so would a car that travels through worm holes to save time when traveling but we dont have that either. In anything in life its impossible to have the best of all worlds and even more impossible to make everyone happy.

[hitech]

yes as so would a car that travels through worm holes to save time when traveling but we dont have that either. In anything in life its impossible to have the best of all worlds and even more impossible to make everyone happy.

Not sure, but your post reads like you missed the intention of the similes in mine.

I use an eMag, and the only time I have really wanted it to get more shots per tank is in scenario games. However, I believe that the 'mag can be made more efficient, but don't have the time or resources to do so....

[teufelhunden]

Rogue, at least from my perspective, the efficiency issue isn't about being able to shoot more in a game, it's about being able to carry a smaller tank that still gets the job done. I was estatic when I dropped good internals in my old 'Cocker and could go from an 88/45 to a 68/45 and still shoot as much paint as I would ever need to [something like 9 pods + hopper, iirc,, of course, that was the exception and not the norm, but it's better to have it and not need it! ]

I'd cream myself if I could use a 45/45 and still shoot 1500.. not that it's anywhere near a reality, but it'd be nice.

[hitech]

Ive never had a problem with running out of air.

I've only really had a problem in scenario type games. With a 68/3000 I can shoot all the paint I carry. But I don't carry much paint by todays standards (4 tubes). However, in the scenario game at Fort Ord I usually ended up making myself a target and trying to get my opponents to hang out a little too far just before I was eliminated. I'd have liked to carry more paint...



All that said, have things changed or is a 'mag about average in the efficiency department?

[shartley]

[teufelhunden]

I believe the difference with those guns is that there's something you can do to improve the efficiency in the aftermarket upgrade department. No such product exists for the 'Mag. Hell, probably the most popular aftermarket upgrade for Automags, LX, actually decreased efficiency

[SlartyBartFast]

I believe the difference with those guns is that there's something you can do to improve the efficiency in the aftermarket upgrade department. No such product exists for the 'Mag. Hell, probably the most popular aftermarket upgrade for Automags, LX, actually decreased efficiency

How does the "efficiency" of those markers stack up with the Mag?

[NewMagMan21]

Fine Rogue.. Marker has nothing to do with it you do play with a pump right? - the 20 foot per second inconsistency taht seems to go with the X-valve is actually my biggest complaint about it - followed by the problematic nature of mine.

Yes, skill is important, more important than marker, but marker does mean something...

Personally I've never had 20 fps inconsistency mabye I'm lucky er my parts or whatever. But the most fluxation I've seen at in 5 shots is like 10. The marker does help your play but I think your overhyping it. Personally a totally tricked out E-mag isn't my ultimate dream gun...(sorry to say ) But if I had that Ultimate dream gun I don't think it would give much more of an edge, ( course I'm not a big paint sprayer if I can help it ).
To give you an example my freind owns a DM-4 and I owned a Spyder E-99 (stock) before I got my first mag. While he move and continuosly ed all over the place I just changed bunkers, got a better angle, and took him down. If I had a DM-4 as did he we would have made just the same moves and the same scenario would have happened.
The only thing my mag changed was my paint price.

Anyway for me the gun means near crap. ( Unless you buy BE guns )

[teufelhunden]

How does the "efficiency" of those markers stack up with the Mag?

Stock? Probably about equal, maybe an extra half pod per 68.45. With an Evolve/similiar, however, there's no comparison.

[phantomhitman]

yes as so would a car that travels through worm holes to save time when traveling but we dont have that either. In anything in life its impossible to have the best of all worlds and even more impossible to make everyone happy.

i am the reason for this statement

chris (gadevil) has more than covered the mag when it comes to bringing into current tourney play. for people that have not held, shot, witnessed, or seen a video of any devilmag in action needs to experiance it. i will be his lil devil whore as long as i can.


why would someone pick a ferrari over a honda accord. i mean teh ferrari costs 250 times more, worse on gas, higher insurance, etc. It does not make sence logically, but guess what-people want them, and a few can buy them!!!
get want you want, shoots as fast or slow as you want, and just have fun playing your game. its like all of the tourney or speedballers started telling people what to do or something, if you dont like something stay away from it.
/rant

[Lohman446]

why would someone pick a ferrari over a honda accord. i mean teh ferrari costs 250 times more, worse on gas, higher insurance, etc. It does not make sence logically, it.
/rant

This statement is getting old. How much is a DevilMag? How much is a Shocker? You're analogy.... well "it does not make sense logically".

[GA Devil]

This statement is getting old. How much is a DevilMag? How much is a Shocker? You're analogy.... well "it does not make sense logically".

they are fairly competative in priceing actually. I can only do so much when I have to pay someone else for their parts at THEIR price. Comparing the 2 can only be compared as size, wieght and electronic. Eye system is different, and what you can do with it is WAY different. A standard Complete DevilMAG is $900. I actually own both and so does my wife. We both go to the DevilMAGs when playing not just because its mine but because of how it performs. I can use any color shell in my DevilMAG, can you in a shocker?