Problem with paintball?

[GT]

Sounds to me that the root of the entire problem is the adult, not the kid, by using your logic.

Dammit squid learn how to read! I dont understand the attempt at "gotcha." Its week, grow up. I thought you were banned? The great irony is that you and your "kind's"attitude and allowing you to get away with it, is the exact point of this thread. Here let me break down my post for you.

My thesis is the lack of oversight.

Why have we allowed children to take over paintball?

Where did I say it was the kids faults? Punks need discipline and the more mature need to pass on the tradition, and look at the root of the question.

[Recon by Fire]

GT shoot me a pm when you guys want to go play, also let me know what "fields" had you so upset.

I have abuddy that has been going out to PB-USA pretty faithfully, it is a good drive for him too since he is in the Kemah area. But he swears it is the place to play and the best field around H-town. I haven't been there yet myself but I was considering making it my next stop. LMK and all us newbs can amke out there for a day of play.

[mark_1791]

What's killing the sport are the kids though. Whiney little babies. Most specifially the ones without jobs. People who don't earn their way in. I earned my way into paintball.

I completely agree. I remember a couple of years ago i was playing with my old cheap spyder and there was this one kid who had NEVER played paintball and his mom had just bought him an Angel. An ANGEL! The kid was acidentaly shooting all over the place cuz the trigger pull was so light!! I didnt even buy a new gun until about 2 years of playing. Then, I bought a mag WHICH I PAYED FOR MYSELF for $350.

To things like that, all i can say is wow. Just wow.

Dang all those kids that never have to buy anything themselves 'cuz they have parents that make like $400,000 a year!

[-=Squid=-]

Dammit squid learn how to read! I dont understand the attempt at "gotcha." Its week, grow up. I thought you were banned? The great irony is that you and your "kind's"attitude and allowing you to get away with it, is the exact point of this thread. Here let me break down my post for you.



Where did I say it was the kids faults? Punks need discipline and the more mature need to pass on the tradition, and look at the root of the question.

My "kind?" You do realize you are only one year older than me? I guess not...

I was unbanned, like all the others, because I was literally banned for no reason.

The way I perceive your post is a stab at the younger crowd, which is pretty common on AO. If it weren't, your closure would not have been what it is, instead it would be something like "where are the adults?"

Then again, I could care less.

[AO Moderation Team]

Squid has earned a 3 day ban for disruptive/annoying behavior.

[minimag03]

The problem with paintball is that we are running around shoot each other. Generally, people don't think that is good.

-minimag03

[GT]

GT shoot me a pm when you guys want to go play, also let me know what "fields" had you so upset.

I will email you tomorrow with the local drama.

My "kind?" You do realize you are only one year older than me? I guess not...

first I dont think you have any idea how old I am. Second I am not talking about age, again lets get this back on topic.

Why have we allowed children to take over paintball?

children is a realitive term, you can be 12 or 30...

[SSniper]

Im sorry.. kids are going to ruin the game for all of us...

yeah, this is true, but not ALL kids ruin that game.. there are kids who are firing hot guns but there are also old guys that wipe their hits, everyone just needs to take responsibility and be an example for the noobs... if you see someone doing something against the rules, confront them.

[AcemanPB]

I can't wait untill I turn 18 so I can bash all the kids playing paintball.

[REDRT]

I don't think younger kids are bad at all. We got a pretty good group of teens Refing at the field I play at. Most of which are new tournament players also. Adult supervision is always there. I ref as part of are teams sponsership. Sometimes these teen annoy me to no end and other times they make me laugh. I think of these guys as friends even though there half my age. Sometimes they even teach me a thing or two. I believe that kids of today are the future of the sport and it is going to take teachers to mold this new future. It is us the adults. We have to be teachers to some extent to insure the survival and well being of the sport, as we know it. Honestly, I never look at players as old, young , male or female. I only see a player. That is what I like most about paintball. All that doesn't matter. What matters is attitude. Attitude is everything. I try to stay positive most of the time and positive attitudes rub off. There is blame everywhere for everything. One has got to except the things you can't change, change the things you can and learn to know the difference.

[frop]

No matter how old you are, you will always be called a 'kid' by someone older than you(unless your the oldest person alive ).

THe problem goes further than childishness. It is the lack of caring, caring enough to DO something about it, even if you get shot down. Mebbe i'm just a lil retarded right now, but I see similarities to the Kitty Genovese case(no one helped while she was stabbed to death in a multiple encounter) and bystander intervention issues. THe attitude is: Someone else will take care of it, etc.

[shartley]

Wait wait wait... I guess I fail to see where this is the fault of 18< aged people?

Wait, it isn't.

You say that the owner is all about the money? He's the adult, right? Sounds to me that the root of the entire problem is the adult, not the kid, by using your logic.

[Blazestorm]

I used to see this problem at one field I went to, I now play at a field where the only thing not INTENSIVELY watched is barrel plugs, I've yet to see a gun mis-fire, but I have seen numerous rental people walking off without barrel plugs, as I'm waiting for the next game and people are walking off, I stop anyone who doesn't have their plug in, as well as mask on before leaving the netting.

Their field limit is 285 right? If you shoot 286 one time, they make you turn it down. It can be an annoyance, but it shows attention to the detail, they brief everyone on everything. And they make sure the "rentals" know if they're playing with the "high-end" and if they don't want to they can leave. The refs are pretty lazy with paint checking which can lead to cheating in some folk... But overall it's a great experience. Entry is 15 and paint is 25 a case and up, at an INDOOR FIELD. They have real bathrooms, a viewing area above, a decently large staging area (could use benchs + real tables versus spools, but whatever) and a full-stocked pro-shop inside. They do actually pay the refs (Not under-the-table or with paint/discounts) I think they make 10 an hour, working almost every day of the week, especially thursday, friday, saturday, sunday...

I'd say I'm pretty lucky... I'm going to be going to practice with cartel at a different indoor field in a couple weeks, 35 a case + free entry is even better.

I think stereotyping everyone young as ruining the sport is pretty rediculous... Most of the young guns I know (under 18) are more mature than a lot of adults that are paintballing. And I know some 14 year olds that are spoiled pricks. Example - I was playing on a team at a local tourney, we missed finals because we suck. This kid and his brother who were also on the team took my profilers to go watch our A-Team in Finals, well this was without my permission. I figured I'd just take one of their masks (I mean it was another 5 feet away from my bag?) and when I got out there the kid (14years old, about 4ftish like 70 pounds) "What the **** are you doing with my mask? Stay the **** out of my gearbag."

Ya... so him and his brother take MY MASKS, and I can't use one of his? Why doesn't he just take his in the first place? Christ. Did I mention he jacked one of my brand new profiler lens (25 bucks) and when I asked for it back he said "Nah this is mine." when I was sitting in a chair right next to my bag when he took the lense OUT of my bag and started opening the packaging... Being the nice guy I was, I figured he'd give it back at the end of the day... I ask for it back and he's like "wtf are you talking about, this is my lense" ... Haha, and I paid for his dinner afterwords... when I asked for some of the fries I paid for, he yet again denied me. I paid for them... "So what they're mine", Then when I asked to borrow his cell to call my dad to make sure he was going to be at the meeting place to pick me up, he said no once again. The most stuckup kid I've ever met in my life.

End of rant.

[The Action Figure]

Why have we allowed children to take over paintball?

good point, im 16 any ive been playin since I was 10 but I know what Im doin. The problem is the pbn agg kiddies

[Recon by Fire]

Blazestorm, I just have to ask; what were you thinking being on a team with that brat or your continued generosity towards him?

I see similarities to the Kitty Genovese case(no one helped while she was stabbed to death in a multiple encounter) and bystander intervention issues. THe attitude is: Someone else will take care of it, etc.

I must have missed that case! It definately would not happen around here! Say hello to my little friend, Mr. Beretta and his 31 companions of high-grain hydroshocks