what if AGD made a LP valve?

[frontrunner]

AGD doesn't care about hype

[WARPED1]

AGD doesn't care about hype

But they should, more mags would sell. Duh, simple concept.

[Kevmaster]

while AGD didn't make it...an electro low pressure mag was made...but it wasn't efficient.

Shocker

[WARPED1]

while AGD didn't make it...an electro low pressure mag was made...but it wasn't efficient.

Shocker

Boy, thats a stupid, uneducasted, biased statement. The SFT Shocker is nothing like a mah except some looks. The first bolt system did make the gun not efficient, but that has been solved with a new bolt system.
(top pic= old bolt, bottom pic= new bolt)

[SLICEnDICE]

the LP Mag

I believe what Kevmaster ment to say was "The Smart Mag" by Smartparts, not the Shocker by the same company. But I could be wrong. Boy was that a piece of marketing hype. There was also a very HP Mag called the Hypermag.(the term"Hyper" should sound fimilar) It had a smaller air chanber and it did get more shots per tank fill. The air chamber was made smaller by ADG and ther was a different spring pack in the reg. The chamber pressures were around 900psi if I remember correctly. Some of us had different inserts for the air chamber depending what type of game was being palyed (indoor, outdoor, 3,5,7, or 10 man)

[WARPED1]

I believe what Kevmaster ment to say was "The Smart Mag" by Smartparts, not the Shocker by the same company. But I could be wrong. Boy was that a piece of marketing hype. There was also a very HP Mag called the Hypermag.(the term"Hyper" should sound fimilar) It had a smaller air chanber and it did get more shots per tank fill. The air chamber was made smaller by ADG and ther was a different spring pack in the reg. The chamber pressures were around 900psi if I remember correctly. Some of us had different inserts for the air chamber depending what type of game was being palyed (indoor, outdoor, 3,5,7, or 10 man)

The Smart Mag was indeed a flop. Mess with AGS's valve and it becomes a steaming pile of poop. Like the hurricane valve.
And, if you're going to say one gun tried to copy another just because they look alike, the first Intimidators were made by using old Spyder bodies Bob had laying around. For that matter, say every blowback marker ever made just is a PMI 3.

[SlartyBartFast]

There was also a very HP Mag called the Hypermag.(the term"Hyper" should sound fimilar) It had a smaller air chanber and it did get more shots per tank fill. The air chamber was made smaller by ADG and ther was a different spring pack in the reg. The chamber pressures were around 900psi if I remember correctly. Some of us had different inserts for the air chamber depending what type of game was being palyed (indoor, outdoor, 3,5,7, or 10 man)

Cool.

What happened to the idea? Why wasn't it commercialised?

TK has often said that he could make a smaller more efficient marker with higher pressures.

Thing is my knee-jerk reaction is show it or shut-up.

Seems like only so much whining if you can't produce the product, show it's better, and market it correctly.

While I respect Tk and am amazed at what he accomplished, considering the non-functional crap that has been successfully marketed by other companies it always seemed like a defeatest attitude to claim that paintball players were the reason he couldn't develop his ideas.

[Kevmaster]

Boy, thats a stupid, uneducasted, biased statement. The SFT Shocker is nothing like a mah except some looks. The first bolt system did make the gun not efficient, but that has been solved with a new bolt system.
(top pic= old bolt, bottom pic= new bolt)

if i remember riht....both markers use(d) a large dump chamber that when fired, the bolt moves forward to open. the method of filling the dump chamber differs (spool valve vs. on-off assy)

I would hardly compare a shockers looks to a mag, however

[than205]

but....
nobody ever combined a smart mag with a lighter bolt spring? or did they?